"Have faith in God"

I am not a moulvi, neither am i a total whacko when it comes to religion. I am just a moderate Muslim. I don’t intend to start a religious debate here but i just want to know what this really means.

I get very scared after bombings, plane crashes, hearing of any kidnapping, robbery, crime scenes, wars, divorces,rapes, murder, news of any accident etc. These things happen here in Pakistan on and off. But what i get to hear is “Have faith in Allah” “Trust God”. Masha Allah i do love my religion and Allah and His Prophet (pbuh) but i want to know that those who die in such bombings, plane crashes, crime scenes, murders etc. do they not believe in God enough? Don’t they have faith in God? Even with having faith in God, they do end up dying or something and their families crying for ever. Are their families any less faithful? WHAT DOES “HAVE FAITH IN ALLAH” “TRUST ALLAH” actually mean?

Does it mean that even after all these hardships, its just a test and you will be rewarded for it?
Does it mean that the result of this will be paid in the Hereafter?
Does it mean what ever God does, does for our benefit?
Does it mean if we pray to Allah, all will be well no matter what?
Or some thing else.

Even if i love & trust Allah, it still scares me that my family might be in any danger and i do pray for them. But does that reduce the chances of any mishappening with any of us?

I genuinely need to know what and how to develop that ultimate trust that even if a big mishap takes place (Allah maaf karay, God forbid! astaghfirullah) its still for my benefit?

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I knew someone who died in a plane crash a few years ago ! He was one of the most decent guy I ever knew. May Allah grants him place in Jannat , he was liked by all ! People say that he was a shaheed two times . It happened because it was meant to happen , I don't know what kind of life he or his family had lived but I don't certainly think it was a punishment for them , it was fate.

Similarly , my friend's fiancé died in an accident a few years back. He was a nice guy , religious , as my friends says he was a good son , a good friend , a good fiancé' but it was fate and it was meant to happen.

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This world is not based on 'fair justice'. People get hurt, pained, or killed without being at fault. When you complain about these injustices, you should remember that everything that happens is in the knowledge of God and He will compensate you, in this life or hereafter. Therefore, one needs to keep faith in Him.

This life is not supposed to be all comfy and fair. It is a 'test' and tests and examinations are supposed to be difficult. The more you prepare and suffer for a test, the better results you can expect, eventually.

:k:

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We don’t die, we just get transformed into something else. Some other state of existence. Not just physically but spiritually too.

Like the incredible water cycle. It just changes form …> steam, gas, ice, snow, hail, vapor, clouds, rain. Its amount on Earth remains almost the same.

Instead of getting scared of how and when you’re gonna die, get excited about the surprises the death would bring and what it might be switching you into. :wink:

**rolling another joint :smokin2: **

really!!!.. people might start committing suicide out of excitement:@:

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^ that would be soooo cool. :k:

y?? u think population will decrease??:@:

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It might... i guess.

On the otherhand one suicide could make everyone feel that life is not to be wasted so then the shock stops others doing it...

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Excuses and justifications to keep the world going. Life is based on random chance, and the sooner these religious mumbo jumbos realize it, the better.

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^ You wish.

"Alas the beliefs of others no matter how ridiculous must be respected..."

  1. If its a hrdship that came on you, yes you will be compensated many folds for that in akhirat.

  2. Yes.

  3. No it does not mean that everything happens for our benefit. Allah is malik of khair and shar. A hardship could be a test or a punishment, who knows.

  4. Yes, all will be well in akhirat. This life is a test anwyays so no guarantee in this world.

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one thing that makes no sense about those who believe is that, if they are so sure they will be more than compensated for injustices done to them in life, why do they still get angry and upset over it?

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^ you can have hope in the face of adversity while experiencing the full emotional impact of it, with all the anger and sadness that includes.

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  1. "hope" seems to indicate uncertainty, and lack of complete faith in a just reward.

  2. why is the emotional impact so negative, when the person knows this injustice means nothing bad to him/her overall?

  3. a person who does not believe in the after-life has a lot more to lose from negative events in life, given that it is all he/she values. yet, there is no significant difference in how much believers or non-believers mourn tragedies. why?

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There are some people on this earth who actually celebrate someone's death. Not for bad reason.

There are two aspects of life and death.

One deals with worldy/material aspect. Other deals with beyond this world or materialistic thinking.

Those who die of some accident leave behind their loved ones who rightly so miss their presence and feel sad. Nothing wrong with that.

In Islam mourning is advised to be limited and should not to the point of cursing/questioning the decision of Allah.......... or not to even be prolonged.

This mean that one can mourn but should not take it too far.

Not mourning for the loss has been shown to create psychologic problems for those who are 'left behind'.

while I am someone who thinks a little uncertainty is good i meant it more in the vein of anticipation of deliverance from injustice. it is human nature to want to minimise the suffering experienced even if we believe it will be eventually redressed.

you may believe in the justice system of your country but still wont want to be robbed and while experiencing robbery or violence would still experience the feelings that come with it.

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  1. why is the emotional impact so negative, when the person knows this injustice means nothing bad to him/her overall?

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you're assuming that emotional responses are entirely logical. while there is an element of rationality to all emotions, things like logical inconsistency and the overall picture are often besides the point to the emotion.

nevertheless the religious belief in eventual justice is often a source of solace and help people come out of that emotional state (which is why often athiests posit this as the motivation for religion)

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  1. a person who does not believe in the after-life has a lot more to lose from negative events in life, given that it is all he/she values. yet, there is no significant difference in how much believers or non-believers mourn tragedies. why? [/QUOTE]

because mourning is not a reaction driven my rational analysis of loss. animals are known to mourn their dead, and there you dont expect reflections about afterlife to play a part in the mourning.

nevertheless there too religion does play a role in helping people reconcile with the tragedy (which is why this is also posited as a reason for the universality of religion).

Yes very true my friend!

Many people deny spirits,try to say they dont exist!! (I think they are scared and thats why they deny them)