Have Booze, won't travel

This is an opinion piece that was published by USA Today (republished by Yahoo! News). Fairly interesting. I look at this thing, not merely as an issue with Somalian cab drivers, but also with many others. At the outset it seems like a freedom of choice thing, however, when you start thinking in those lines, may be we will end up with a situation where a white cab driver will refuse to pick up a muslim family, just because they are muslim. Where do we cross the line from just trying to abide by our religious/other beliefs into violating others’ rights. Anyway, read the article, and share your views:

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Have booze, won’t travel](http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20070117/cm_usatoday/haveboozewonttravel)

There’s a big difference between being free to practice your religion and trying to impose its strictures on others.

In most places in America, that’s understood and accepted. The cab line at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport isn’t one of them.

In the past five years at the airport, Muslim taxi drivers of Somali descent have refused to transport about 5,400 passengers carrying alcohol, usually purchased at duty-free shops or wineries.

The Muslim American Society of Minnesota says carrying alcohol violates Islamic law. Calling for “tolerance,” it wants the airport to establish a color-coding system to channel passengers with alcohol to cabs willing to carry them.

That’s a problem. About 75% of the airport’s 900 drivers are Somalis and many, though not all, have refused such fares. On Tuesday, the airport commission voted to hold public hearings on a strict policy to suspend drivers who refuse passengers for reasons other than a threat to drivers’ safety.

This is the only logical response at a public facility where workers can’t be permitted to turn away some customers based on individual beliefs.

Accommodating such preferences leads down a dangerous road. Should drivers, based on religious strictures, be able to refuse to take passengers to bars? Or be allowed to cite religious beliefs for refusing to pick up blacks, or Jews, or homosexuals?

New York and other cities have struggled for years to stop the pernicious practice of taxi drivers zipping past minorities and refusing fares to certain neighborhoods.

In a few cases, the Islamic drivers in Minneapolis have even refused to transport disabled people with guide dogs because of other religious strictures about unclean animals. The Minnesota Muslim society condemned such refusals. But airport authorities can’t be in the business of parsing religious beliefs as they strive to serve all members of the public equally.

In some ways the Minneapolis dispute is an aberration: Muslim cabbies haven’t made similar demands elsewhere. But it is emblematic of what can happen when people - and not just Muslims - carry religious beliefs to work and expect systems to turn on their needs.

In recent years, a small number of pharmacists who consider contraception akin to abortion have refused to dispense birth control or “morning after” pills. Pharmacists are entitled to hold that view. But stores aren’t obligated to employ people who won’t follow their policies, who won’t dispense legal products or who chase customers away.

That reality applies to taxi drivers, too.

At the Somali Justice Advocacy Center in Minneapolis, executive director Omar Jamal says the alcohol dispute is creating a backlash even against Muslim drivers willing to carry all passengers.

No doubt. Carrying all passengers to their destinations without discrimination is central requirement of a taxi driver’s job. Drivers who can’t accept that should find another line of work.

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its BS, whats next you wont take people to clubs because they serve alcohol, you wont take people to restaurants because they serve alcohol there.

These Somalians should be grateful that they were given an opportunity to legally move to this country and make a better life for themselves, something that many mexicans would give their left nut for.

This is unaccpetable, when i read these news for th frst time i had sent a letter to this muslim american society teling them they were off their rockers. I did not hear back.

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Market will set them straight. Me thinks.

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screw them, but I dont want their lameness getting some equally idiotic reaction from cabbies who may decide against giving muslims a ride on some similarly made up bullshyt excuse.

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I know ppl who have given up their jobs in banks, just because they don't want to deal with riba/interest; and I think thats perfectly fine.

I know muslim restauranteurs who don't serve alcohol or pork at their establishment, because it goes against their religious beliefs. Fine there too.

Cabbies, especially at major airports, unfortunately don't have it as easy. Theirs is a regulated industry and one that may be deemed critical for a city/airport. And had these Somalian cab drivers not been such a dominant majority at Minnesota airport, this probably won't even be an issue. But as they are, so it is.

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Surprised and dumbfounded. Surprised that 75% of cabbies are Somalies of all the places ...and Minnesota of all the places! How did that happen!

Dumbfounded that these guys will try to play saviors this way! They should be fired or license suspended for such ...yes DISCRIMINIATION!

And even disgusted ...that the M.A.S.M will take such a stand and in the process corraborating to America what uneducated under developed religiously intolerant and extremist people "moslems' are! well done and thank you Muslim American Society of Minnesota! Way to go! You should share a nobel with ADL for this.

Oh. is it ok if I say what I just said? Because I had my head chopped of a few days ago for asking a question about distinguishing between dinner wine vs heavy drunkenness.

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*Surprised and dumbfounded. Surprised that 75% of cabbies are Somalies of all the places ...and Minnesota of all the places! How did that happen! *

because when saomalia was a hellhole, US was gracious enough to allow somalians to come as assylees, and refugees and then they got perm residency. majority were directed to Minnesota because of some needs there to support the growth of the city.

U will see similar trends with bosnans in st louis. iranians in LA etc.

Dumbfounded that these guys will try to play saviors this way! They should be fired or license suspended for such ...yes DISCRIMINIATION!

this is discrimination pure and simple, and needs tro be stopped.

And even disgusted ...that the M.A.S.M will take such a stand and in the process corraborating to America what uneducated under developed religiously intolerant and extremist people "moslems' are! well done and thank you Muslim American Society of Minnesota! Way to go! You should share a nobel with ADL for this.

want to mail em, I can give u an address, but dot hold your breath for a response. I guess Minneapolis is a step or two behind other cities where the fundo clerics were sent packing to whatever place they came from.

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well cabbies can then quit driving cabs if providing the service interferes with their beliefs.

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What is next? luggage inspection before you ride a cab with a Somali, Certification of halal for all the goods in that luggage by different ulemas from different sects. After doing all this the Somali cabbie will happily chew on his KHAAT ( A certain type of leaf which is widely chewed among somalis to get high) and will drive you to your destination.

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If a pilot of a plane, security workers or other personnel in the airlines industry have the right to deny right of travel, in hundreds of circumstances, then surely these cab drivers reserve the right to serve or not serve customers as they wish.

So many businesses at one time refused the right to blacks, Mexicans or non-white people and nothing was done about them...In fact someone once posted a thread in General about the restaurants that won't serve people unless they speak English...They still don't serve people who don't speak English...And not speaking proper English is a handicap which eventually one overcomes later on...

As free people who choose to be in a profession they deem fit, they have every right to refuse anyone they wish...

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in my book 2 wrongs still dont make a right :) I tik rhe refusal of service by peeeeelots is idiotic too. I do not want this type of crap happen in the name of religion, thousands of muslim cabbies in NYC, Chicago, London, UAE, Paris, Istanbul dont seem to have an issue driving people who may have alcohol in their bags.

and bravo for the association in minneapolis, instead of building bridges, they are just digging trenches..

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In your book the right of another Muslim don’t make a right…

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oh shut up

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So now you are against my right to post?

I knew it…

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MOST OF THE CAB BUSINESS AT NIGHT IN BIG CITIES IS TRASPORTING HOOKERS AND STRIPPERS. ARE THEY REFUSING THEM THE FARE TOO??? ALSO WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE CARRYING ALCOHAL IN THEIR STOMACHS AND BAR HOPPING? WHERE IS THIS GOING TO END???

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I think no one will refuse the right of a cabdriver of not picking a person, if the cabdriver fears his security. Same is true for airline pilots. In both cases, there has to be credible case. These cabdrivers are refusing to pick passengers for religious grounds, and not security ground.

Lajawab, so if today a cabdriver refuses to give you a ride, because you have a beard; would you still think he has a perfect right to do that, being its his personal choice? What if every restaurant, supermarket, bus, taxi refuse to serve you because you have a beard... do you still think that its their right not to serve anyone they choose?

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Alcohal is not the only thing forbidden, are they going stop giving rides to people who are homosexuals and Jews because of their religious and political beliefs?

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why am i having a sense of deja vu after reading this? has this been posted before? :confused:

anyways why are these cabbies in a country that legalizes alchohol anyways? go home. and i agree with ahmadjee. the market will set them straight. but at the same time they are making the more tolerant muslim cabbies look bad because its a reflection on the views of the whole group.

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no I am against you making idiotic assumptions about other people.
if you think that it is your right to post crap like that go ahead
I will start practicing my right to ban :slight_smile:

if i was against your right to post u would have been gone ages ago.

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Hey hey hey... no one sould ban Lajawab. His entrance makes the discussion interesting, otherwise pretty much everyone was saying the same thing. We need a discussion with contrarian views to fully understand an issue.