Am I allowed to do that?
Bhaiyya Geert Wilders seems to get away with it, why can’t I?
Apparently, Geert Wilders has “a right to slam Islam” and “voice his opinion”.
I guess I ***am ***allowed to bish about you and your people and your history 
all under the banner of freedom of hypocrisy.. err.. speech!
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Yes you are allowed to, but but but only if you speak bad about islam and muslims. otherwise :nono:
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So freedom of speech only applies to non-muslims? =(
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Actually, yes.
Besides (and i quote), Wilders’ offensive statements are related to Islam and the Holy Quran and not to the muslims 
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well religion isn't above criticism in a secular country. and it's not just islam, there are tons of people who speak out against the evils of christianity every day.
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This guy is spreading hatred against muslims. It is not mere criticism.
The atmosphere is changing here, in a negative way.
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^+10000
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i agree with queer. People have been mocking christianity for years and years in america. why do u think islam deserve special respect?
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Err, we're not the ones dissing Christianity. So let us be mate!
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What DP said. There is a huge difference between criticism and hate mongering. The former should be allowed, the latter shouldn't be. I can voice my opinion regarding hinduism and say their gods are false and that is my belief. What I cannot do is produce documentaries to portray hindus as being some sick-minded violent people, what I cannot do is take away the rights of hindus just because of their religious beliefs. And that is exactly what Wilders is allowed to do.
Islam doesn't deserve special respect, it simply deserves respect, just like any other world religion.
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what makes you thinks there is any difference between calling someones gods and prophets false vs. calling the followers sick? it is a slippery slope.
and while geert wilders is clearly a nut who doesn't respect sensibilities, he would be totally at home in the leadership of a society like saudi arabia or iran.
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I'm more interested in how a muslim is supposed to treat non-muslims like, than how Saudi Arabia treats them. And for that, I need to refer to the religious scripture. If there's something in the scriptures that I don't like, I have every right to question it and disagree with it. But what gives me the right to ridicule a scripture?
No one should be allowed to spread hatred against anyone, is what I'm saying. No, the arabs aren't setting the best example for us, but the western hypocrisy amazes me equally.
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well scripture is only sacred to its own followers. the rest is up to mutual respect. and to go all cliche, respect is earned.
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*what makes you thinks there is any difference between calling someones gods and prophets false vs. calling the followers sick? it is a slippery slope. *
and while geert wilders is clearly a nut who doesn't respect sensibilities, he would be totally at home in the leadership of a society like saudi arabia or iran.
this makes sense, i was seriously on the route to conversion b/c islam has a certain beauty to it and it sees all muslims as equal but for me personally those quranic verses that speak about nonmuslims/nonmuslim practices, i couldn't get myself to accept. i just couldn't see nonmuslims in that way. still getting those verses clarified but for the most part the interpretations are correct.
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I’m going off topic now but, Nisha, doesn’t every religious scripture claim that the only true religion is that religion itself and all other religions are false? The Quran states that the only religion acceptable to Allah is Islam and all other religions are false.
If I’m not a hindu, I’m automatically saying I don’t believe in hinduism, I don’t believe the hindu scriptures are authentic and that is why I’m not a hindu. Why should this be offensive to anyone?
We need to be able to sit down and have a chat with a person of another faith (or of no faith) and accept the fact that they reject what you believe is authentic and sacred. I wouldn’t be one bit offended if someone was to come up to me and say I think Islam is a false religion. That is perfectly fine, that is their opinion.
What wouldn’t be and isn’t fine with me is BS that the likes of Geert Wilders go around saying, thinking they’re some sorts of experts in Islam. Hate mongers, of any faith, and their supporters are simply retarded. 
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well there's a major difference between abrahamic religions and eastern schools of thought. the majority of abrahamic religions focus on the concept of conversion, expansion so it's always about how one religion is better than the other. forgive me if i'm mistaken
verse 4:11 of the bhagavat Gita, i hold close to my heart b/c it shows that all religions/beliefs lead to the same God:
“Whatever wish men(all human beings) bring me in worship, that wish I grant them. Whatever path(belief/religion) men travel is my path: no matter where they walk it leads to me.”
that was the interpretation of the verse that's most commonly accepted. this one verse gives me total peace of mind
along with islam,i was actually studying hinduism too with a friend that was of the advaita school of thought, the way he explains the religion made me fall in love with most parts of the religion again but even then interpretation of verses in BG, vedas,upanishads by each individual can vary. so for me personally i take all the beautiful things i love about every religion i've studied, including christianity and parts of buddhism and use it towards my everyday life. I can't seem to devote myself to only one religion.
it gives me so much inner peace taking only the positives of each religion, including islam, combining them and ignoring the certain verses i have a hard time accepting.
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we do not tolerate any one making fun of Islam you can ask us questions about Islam but if you will abuse Islam than we know what to do
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I know there are some muslims who want to please west and portarit as so called secular but Islam is Islam and still most muslims good muslims and know how to defend Islam
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we do not tolerate any one making fun of Islam you can ask us questions about Islam but if you will abuse Islam than we know what to do
so you're saying defenders of islam are intolerant?
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Neither Islam nor it's defender's are intolerant. And there aren't too many Geert Wilders in this world. Most people I've seen are too preoccupied with other problems to give much thought to stupid debates.
The thing is, Islam's image has been tarnished in recent years by idiots like Ahmedinejad, Sadam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden. Not to mention the inherent backwardness of Arab society, which is generally seen as a representative of Islam.