What does Hasba means and why is there a need for such a bill?? This is reminiscent of what the Talibans did when they created the department of vice and virtue. Do you guys think that religion should be imposed upon Muslims who are already in a majority in a particular state or a province.???
Yes. Please, tell us what this bill is all about.
" banners and advertisements landing the bill"
Dawn ke Angreezi tekh nahee hee.
And what about the Haj/Umra tours by ex PM's and the current
one.respected Janab PM sahab, what ever his name is.
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We sometimes hear and read about hisbah (guarding against infringements) and rijaal al-hisbah (men who guard against infringements). Who are these men and what is their job?
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Praise be to Allaah.
Rijaal al-hisbah (men who guard against infringements) are people who devote their time to denouncing visible evil whether they do that voluntarily or they are paid for it from the Bayt al-Maal (treasury) of the Muslims. Part of their job of hisbah is to denounce evil actions in marketplaces and elsewhere such as:
1- Free mixing of the sexes and wanton display of beauty (tabarruj) which are forbidden according to sharee’ah.
2- Imitation of either of the sexes by the other.
3- Men making approaches to women either verbally or by their actions.
4- Profane, obscene or indecent speech.
5- Playing radios, TVs or recorders etc. near mosques or in such a way as to disturb the worshippers.
6- Non-Muslims openly manifesting their beliefs or the symbols of their religion, or showing disrespect towards the symbols and rulings of Islam.
7- Displaying or selling pictures, books or video or audio recordings which go against Islamic etiquette or Islamic beliefs.
8- Displaying 3-D or promiscuous images, or the symbols of non-Islamic religions such as the cross, the star of David, images of the Buddha, and the like.
9- Manufacturing or promoting or trading in intoxicants.
10- Means that lead to immoral actions such as adultery, homosexuality and gambling, or running houses and places where evil and immoral actions may be committed.
11- Manifest bid’ah (innovation), such as venerating certain times and places for which there is no sanction in sharee’ah, or celebrating innovated, un-Islamic festivals and occasions.
12- Practising witchcraft, magic and trickery in order to consume people’s wealth unlawfully.
13- Cheating in weights and measures.
Their work also involves the following:
1- Inspection of slaughterhouses to ensure that slaughter of animals is done in the manner prescribed in sharee’ah
2- Inspection of boutiques and tailor shops catering to women.
The presence of the police does not mean that there is no need for these rijaal al-hisbah, because the police force that exists in some countries does not denounce all evil actions and put an end to them. Rather they seek to enforce laws which at best include both truth and falsehood, whilst the rijaal al-hisbah enjoin everything that Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) have enjoined and compel people to adhere to the obligatory duties, and they forbid everything that Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) have forbidden, and they intervene to prevent forbidden actions.
Al-Hisbah magazine, issue no. 39 (www.islam-qa.com)
Regulatory Role of the Islamic State
The Institution of al-Hisba
We can take inspiration for the regulatory role of the government from an Islamic institution known as al-hisba. When the Islamic civilization was at its height, it regulated the market. Al-hisba was a state institution in all Muslim societies up to the colonial period. It had three functions. First, it enforced proper ethical behavior and restrained people from improper and unethical behavior. Second, it was responsible for providing some municipal services such as street lighting and street cleaning, preventing encroachments, and protecting the environment. Third, it regulated markets by checking weights and measures, enforced contracts, forced payment of debts by defaulters, and prohibited unlawful trade practices.
With the advent of Western colonialism, al-hisba, like most Muslim institutions underwent drastic modifications and decline: It either disintegrated into a number of departments or remained an ineffective appendage of the state. By the 19th century, Persia, Turkey, Egypt, and India had already transformed the hisba function into a number of secular departments, discarding its religious content as irrelevant. The hisba department effectively regulated markets in Muslim lands. It performed several of the functions that a modern regulatory agency performs. For example, the hisba ensured that resources flowed into the production of undesirable goods or services. The muhtasib (the head of the hisba department) kept a strict watch on the supply position of the essential commodities so that the public did not face hardship. The muhtasib guarded free competition and took action against business persons who tried to collude against the public. He would not seek to control prices unless they were being artificially inflated by traders. He ensured free entry into and exit from the market.
In this age, the role of government and its interface with the market has increased and become more complex. Instead of the hisba, the democratic state has several regulatory agencies. The Islamic hisba, which generally only regulated the markets, has been replaced by institutions that regulate the government as well; therefore, in this age any implementation of the hisba department through imitation is decidedly misguided. In addition, the old institution of al-hisba indicates that the Islamic state should not be oblivious to the moral conduct of its citizens; after all, marketplaces and government offices also require ethical behavior in the absence of which civilized living is not possible. Then what is the harm if some agency oversees this aspect of individual and organizational behavior? We shall have to make sure that such a regulatory body does not become a monster itself. A system of checks and balances are needed to implement this idea.
Re: Hasba Bill
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What does Hasba means and why is there a need for such a bill?? This is reminiscent of what the Talibans did when they created the department of vice and virtue. Do you guys think that religion should be imposed upon Muslims who are already in a majority in a particular state or a province.???
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Yes, because I believe that one of the roles of government is to ensure its Muslim subjects adhere to Islam, just as one of the roles of parents is to ensure their children adhere to Islam.
What is NWFP's version of "HISBA".
Does It talk about honor killing in the
province.
Ok I agree Madd Sci. But I found this news item a bit disturbing. Why should the Mohtasib or for that matter anyone be considered above the law??? How do we know that a certain person is well versed in religious and worldy affairs?? Maybe I am wrong or reading more then whats given here.
http://www.dawn.com/2003/05/03/nat7.htm
The draft legislation says that a Mohtasib can be an ‘Aalim-i-Deen’ with matriculation qualification and a certificate of Shahadatul Alamia from a recognized religious seminary and qualified to become a judge of the Federal Shariat Court.
The powers and functions of the Mohtasib as provided for under the Hasba Act are entirely different from the ombudsman as enshrined in the Federal Ombudsman Ordinance.
Unlike the federal Mohtasib, whose job is to address public complaints, the provincial Mohtasib, apart from acting on verbal as well as written public complaints, can also take suo motu action. He can monitor the enforcement of Islamic values and Islamic conduct at the provincial level.
He can also make use of any law or rule at his disposal to carry out an investigation through the Hasba Force.
The Mohtasib, or any official authorized by him or a member of the Hasba Force, can enter any government office and check and copy any government record. The Mohtasib will have the same powers of contempt of court as enjoyed by the superior courts.
More importantly, the Hasba Act invests such powers in the office of Mohtasib that makes him virtually above the law. According to Section 21 of the draft act, the validity or invalidity of the orders and proceedings of the Mohtasib cannot be challenged by any court of law or authority, nor can any court stay his orders.
Critics of the draft legislation say it is intrusive and amounts to setting up a parallel structure.
I would be sooo greateful, if someone can point out that such a 'police' actually existed in AnHazoor (saw) time in Macca or Madina.
Jazak'Allah ahsanul Jaza.
As far as I know, the Prophet :saw: himslef went to see if there was any wrong doings in the markets. Umer 
also did the same.
Finding out if traders are measuring up correctly from finding out who is consuming alcohol has a zameen asmaan ka faraq.
There are inspectors in all countries that go on to inspect if the food being served is healthy, if the weights being used are up to the standard. Here in the US it's called the FDA.
Now, tell me where AnHazoor (saw) went on to knock on peoples doors in the morning to call them from prayers or made a police force to enforce it? Or instructed Sahabas to forcefully close down markets at the time of Jumma on those people who refused to do so? Any example?
Well, its all good if the people of Peshawer are supporting it. But what I fear is another jirga system in the making. Okey , thats a bit exagerated but it is important that any verdict thats given on any issue should be in the light of Quran and Sunnah. In our country, in many cases culture overrides relgion and so one never knows who and what is to be given preference. If religion is used to uphold cultural malpractices than this doesn't go down too well....and to accord so many rights to the Mohtasib whereby he is virtually above the law in many cases doesn't make any sense...
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.....If religion is used to uphold cultural malpractices than this doesn't go down too well....
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Well said!. This is nothing but Talibani regime that forced girls out of schools, caged women, and forced men to look like the one-eyed beardo.
The result was an awful punishment for the beardos. The same brutal regime is now being planned for NWFP. This will create nothing but suffering for common man. It will downgrade the economic activity to smuggling, kidnapping, and car thefts. There will be 15 years of civil war and the end will be disasterous for the whole region.
It is time for the rest for country to join together and keep the Halwa-Khor's out of government and into the mosques. That's where they belong.
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Well said!. This is nothing but Talibani regime that forced girls out of schools, caged women, and forced men to look like the one-eyed beardo.
The result was an awful punishment for the beardos. The same brutal regime is now being planned for NWFP. This will create nothing but suffering for common man. It will downgrade the economic activity to smuggling, kidnapping, and car thefts. There will be 15 years of civil war and the end will be disasterous for the whole region.
It is time for the rest for country to join together and keep the Halwa-Khor's out of government and into the mosques. That's where they belong.
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and where do you belong, Mr. Professor...... ? Mental Hospital...
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and where do you belong, Mr. Professor...... ? Mental Hospital...
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Aren't we getting Antsy here Mr. ;)
Let's keep this to Mullah-Tullahs and not bring it down to personal attacks.
However let me know if you are a Mullah-Tullah Aya-Tullah terrorist and I'll stop using these terms while responding to you.
…man where did you learn this…did you make it up?