Has Tsunami shaken your faith?

Has Tsunami shaken your faith?

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3951307
Christian Leaders Admit Tsunami has Shaken People’s
Faiths

By Andrew Barrow, PA

Anglican and Catholic religious leaders conceded today
that the Indian Ocean tsunami had shaken the beliefs
of many followers, but said the disaster would
ultimately serve to strengthen people’s faiths.

The disaster has so far claimed more than 123,000
lives - including those of at least 35 Britons - with
international aid operations only now beginning to
reach some of the hardest-hit areas a week after the
tragedy.

And the church leaders warned today that years of hard
work lay ahead for the international community.

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, said the
“paralysing magnitude” of the disaster was likely to
make many believers question their faith in God.

Writing in The Sunday Telegraph, Dr Williams said the
Boxing Day cataclysm had provoked feelings of outrage
and helplessness, saying: “We can’t see how this is
going to be dealt with, we can’t see how to make it
better.”

He added: “The question: How can you believe in a God
who permits suffering on this scale? is therefore very
much around at the moment, and it would be surprising
if it weren’t - indeed, it would be wrong if it
weren’t. The traditional answers will get us only so
far.”

Celebrating Mass this morning for the victims and
survivors of the tsunami, the Catholic Archbishop of
Birmingham said many people would question how God
could allow such catastrophes.

The Most Reverend Vincent Nichols, in his sermon at
the city’s St Chad’s Cathedral, said: "Questions arise
about who or where does the ultimate power rest. If
not us, then where is the power to cope with, change
or prevent events such as these?

“Where is the all-powerful and why do these natural
tragedies occur?”

Both men said that, despite the huge loss of life,
faith would survive and people of all faiths would
fall back on their beliefs to cope with the struggles.

Dr Williams said: "The extraordinary fact is that
belief has survived such tests again and again - not
because it comforts or explains but because believers
cannot deny what has been shown or given to them.

“These convictions are terribly assaulted by all those
other facts of human experience that seem to point to
a completely arbitrary world, but people still feel
bound to them, not for comfort or ease, but because
they have imposed themselves on the shape of a life
and the habits of a heart.”

Rev Nichols added: "Our faith tutors us, in moments
such as these, to a quite particular belief in God.

"And the truth we are given is quite astonishing,
quite revolutionary. This truth requires of us, again
and again, to refashion our hearts so that we do not
misunderstand, do not let go of the gift we have been
given.

"God’s light is most like love and, as we have seen
over and over again, disaster does not wipe out love:
rather it intensifies it, in loss, in relief, in
effort.

“Disasters do not wipe out faith anymore than they
wipe out love. Rather, the light of love, the light of
God glows more persistently in that awful darkness. It
shines in human heroism, generosity, selflessness and
courage.”

He added: “Death, of course, is the ultimate disaster.
But come it will. That is 100% certain. But no matter
how death comes, whether it is early, in the first
months or years of a life, whether it comes in the
full vigour of adulthood, or slowly after a long
decline; whether it comes in a sudden physical
collapse or in a calamity such as we have just seen,
it has no power to rob us of our God given grace, our
destiny to be with God for all eternity.”

Re: Has Tsunami shaken your faith?

Not if you ask these people, who don’t sem to mind the death of countless Muslims in order to further their twisted agenda.

Tsunami Reactions (1) - Palestinian Friday Sermon by Sheik Mudeiris: Tsunami Allah’s Revenge at Bangkok Corruption

Tsunami Reactions (2) - Saudi Cleric Muhammad Al-Munajjid: Allah Finished Off Richter Scale in Revenge of Infidel Criminals

Tsunami Reactions (3) - Saudi Professor Sheik Fawzan Fawzan: Allah Punishes for Homosexuality and Fornication at Christmas

Re: Has Tsunami shaken your faith?

If the Tsunami happened because of infidels celebrating Christmas & New Years as these stupid mullahs are suggesting, why wouldn't Allah have sent it to Los Angeles?

All the tragedies in the Islamic world, including this in the mulsim-majority portion of Indonesia, US attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq, Earthquake in Bam and others... make it look like Allah is angry at muslims as opposed to kuffar.

Re: Has Tsunami shaken your faith?

Well yes and maybe but I like to believe that every once in a while Allah swt punishes people for their action or inaction. However I also believe that sometimes Allah swt will take shuhadaa from the Ummah as we know from the hadith of the prophet pbuh of a drowning person being a shuhadaa. In which case things become not so apparent. Sometimes events like these instill fear in people's hearts and may renew the cycle of imaan.

Allah knows best, i'm just a participant in the conversation.

Re: Has Tsunami shaken your faith?

Typical. The moment something goes wrong, lets all blame God. Do you give credit to God when things are going great? if anything, events like these just reminds us what worthless piece of **** we are. It makes your faith stronger cuz we realise without God, we are nothing.

something to chew on; if tomorrow, the earth moved an inch away from its orbit, we all will be toast. sleep on it. g'dnight.

Re: Has Tsunami shaken your faith?

yea he likes to keep it on track to torment us.

allah hafiz

Re: Has Tsunami shaken your faith?

the real torment comes after we're toast.

Allah hafiz.

Re: Has Tsunami shaken your faith?

Out of interest, who runs memritv.org and how are the above sermons collected ?

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I don’t know, but does it matter?

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amazing sight, it does make one wonder when everything dystroyed around it.

Re: Has Tsunami shaken your faith?

Interesting site. Too bad they dont have any contact info.
But NO Tsunami has not shaken my faith. I am saddened by all the destruction and death. Natural disasters are tests for the faithful.

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1:Go to www.register.com
2:click on whois
3:type memritv.org
4: enter security code (it will automatically come on)
5: Look at the information
Below is the info from the site.

Registrant name:Michael Vidikan
Address:
PO box 27837
Washington DC
20038-7837
Telephone #:202-955-9070

Re: Has Tsunami shaken your faith?

thats awesome

Re: Has Tsunami shaken your faith?

My faith was tested early last year, and I had to reason with myself..now as much as this saddens me and I am at a loss to comprehend the "why" question, my faith is not wavering.

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I know this is off-topic and I know that the above sermons may well be true, which in itself is dissappointing, however this is what Brian Whitaker of the Guardian surmised of the organistion called MEMRI distributing the above translated sermons:

*"…Memri’s purpose, according to its website, is to bridge the language gap between the west - where few speak Arabic - and the Middle East, by “providing timely translations of Arabic, Farsi, and Hebrew media”. *
Despite these high-minded statements, several things make me uneasy whenever I’m asked to look at a story circulated by Memri. First of all, it’s a rather mysterious organisation. Its website does not give the names of any people to contact, not even an office address…"

Read the full article at http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,773258,00.html

Re: Has Tsunami shaken your faith?

LoL