Re: haram Vs anti-social
I am not stopping any on hareem.
I just wanted to see where ppl stand on this whole "i am muslim" thing.
Why should I seek future and friendship with only "muslims"
stuff like that. u know....
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okay so you're testing us...lol
tum hamen lab rats samajhtay ho kya?
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apparently there is a halaal theirs is a haram ,,, and then there is an "ok"
interesting concept.
apparently there is a halaal theirs is a haram ,,, and then there is an "ok"
interesting concept.
Yes there is, and it's called mubah or muba' I guess.
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What does that cover ? the things I mentioned above.
Cuz every one needs to take it easy once in a while.
now sin upon you, I am going to indulge, :D
I am outta here. :D
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urrrrrghghgh....I don't know. gotta go.
farha
I read first part of you post. This is for you and hitchki:
look around you here in life1. Its always women trying to nuterlize haram with some being social nonsense.
I don't give a damn what ppl do in their lives. Every one has right to do stuff they want as long as its not harming other ppl.
See when a guy like my self engage in a haram activity, he does is recognize it as haram. And think low about the deed.
how ever sistas have this thing as long as its "ok" and "acceptable" and it wont hurt their fairy like image, in their own heads and in society, they wont give a damn about haram or what not.
I get it, you hate women. Or are too small to understand them. In both cases, don't project your kammi onto an entire gender. Accept that you prefer men and live happily ever after.
Rab rakka.
look around you here in life1. Its always women trying to nuterlize haram with some being social nonsense.
I don't give a damn what ppl do in their lives. Every one has right to do stuff they want as long as its not harming other ppl.
aik taraf you're like you dont give a damn to what ppl do, and doosri taraf you seem to be quite fixated upon what happens in Life1
now be a doll and tell me
1-you ok hubby taking bribe? 2-you or him drinking socially ? 3-you using your sexuality to get things done. 4-your immediate family have premarital relations(to any degree)
pll please add more well accepted harams to the list if you feel like.
again. what's with your fixation?
Yeah.
can we move on??
why you women always have to come up with little tactics to bring some to their knees?
You are only a nick to me... I havent seen you or any thing.
You are using this little interaction to find excuse for doing things like drinking, sex etc??
Do you realize im no God?? you are answerable to me???
shuting me up wont help sister :)
the problem very much is you. you're very conveniently jerking your hand off to your own wrongdoings and triny gto concentrate on what OTHER people are doing, and want only THEM to be on the stand.
while you're no God, you should also not try to be one through your silly tactics. it's not about shutting u up ... its about realizing ones own shortcoming before poiting a finger at someone else.
one women comes along and starts about skinship and whether that's ok and you cant seem to understand that that is one woman talking. and she most certainly doesnt project the ideas of all women.
also ... where illigitmate relationships are concerned, why do men like you forget that it takes a man first for woman to have an illigit relationship to begin with. so why all the dump on women?
men have this casual attitude towards their bad deeds .. ya i do it, i know it's wrong, but what the ****. and then just laugh it off.
hello? thats supposed to be worse.
so before you start talking yet again about the haramzadian of "women" ... please do not forget that it is not the domain of women alone. whatever reason. logic, understandng, you give them ... bad is still bad. whether you accept is as bad, or whther you try to justify it.
the action, should be to fix it. which apparently neither women try to do, NOR MEN.
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hitki you too???
i thought you were intellectually brave enough. :hinna:
you too have hit me rather then being open to the question asked.
I dont hate women.
I did not believe there was a God for many years,.. I mean I did not twist things… took them way they appear to me. .. period.
All I want to do is trying to know… where you actually stand on principles.. and where you seek for acceptance and guidance.
I never knew yet again I would feel I dont belong to my own kind :hinna:
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farha dude. I have mostly answered your questions already,
Yeah, one new thing I want to re-emphasize is, I am just trying to figure out where you ppl stand conceptually.
farha dude. I have mostly answered your questions already,
Yeah, one new thing I want to re-emphasize is,** I am just trying to figure out where you ppl stand conceptually**.
that statement doesnt make sense my friend. it's not like women have a separate stance on everything. we are human. we ARE equal. didnt u read that in the Quran? the differences between man and woman has nothing to do with the capability of BOTH of them to commit a similar sin.
why r you trying to enforce the fact i would have differnet concept than you?
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Is it just me or does nothing he says makes sense? Reading JK's posts are a pain in the bottom.
that statement doesnt make sense my friend. it's not like women have a separate stance on everything. we are human*. we ARE equal. didnt u read that in the Quran? the differences between man and woman has nothing to do with the capability of BOTH of them to commit a similar sin. why r you trying to enforce the fact i would have differnet concept than you?*
yes. Not just you many ppl I see. I started looking for this pattern after I like a pakistni girl, form well respected family who's mother was living with non muslim with out marriage. Yet that women use to practice faith.
(Lets not get into that detail because IT was just a starting point.)
*Women are superior in many way!!
*
This trend I spoke of earlier, on a lesser degree, is very obvious among ppl living abroad. I think its about parents not being smart enough to find/teach thier kids ways to get-accepted/move-forward while being stable on the faith.
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:D desi read this now ^
read every 5th word and make your own sentence. Above, for example, he said nothing. 
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I knew you were smart.
go study now. Don't fail.
some one plz lock this thread till her exam is over.
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JK your writing is really something else, and that is not a compliment. Like I stated to you, communicating with females is not ok. Constantly putting females down is not ok, as we are Allah's creation.
JK do you live in Pakistan?
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Desi.....
I don't disrespect females. Every one knows it.
I do admit some time I don't address things way they should be addressed talking to females,(that is only on GS) because I anticipate mob attacking me.
I know how to communicate with women in real life.
But I guess there is some thing I cant understand about women. Where they can't separate their smallest action from their whole image.
yes. Not just you many ppl I see. I started looking for this pattern after I like a pakistni girl, form well respected family who's mother was living with non muslim with out marriage. Yet that women use to practice faith. (Lets not get into that detail because IT was just a starting point.)
Women are superior in many way!!
This trend I spoke of earlier, on a lesser degree, is very obvious among ppl living abroad. I think its about parents not being smart enough to find/teach thier kids ways to get-accepted/move-forward while being stable on the faith.
r u saying there are no muslim men living with non muslim women? maybe you do not know. but i hold a very strong opinion against even men marrying non-muslim women. and the fact that they choose to live with them w/o marriage .. you know what that does to me?
so it matters not whether a woman does that, or a man. IT IS A SIN ANYWAYS. dont u get that? it doesnt matter if that woman tries to justify it or the man accepts it as a sin, and still chooses to go ahead with it.
p.s lets turn it around. let me ask you. why do men accpet the sin they are doing, and still keep on doing it?
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Living in western society taught me to respect our Pakistani muslims women even more . I have seen them struggling through this tough society holding their Islamic and moral values . There is always few who are not that strong and slip , but we cannot generalize on the bases of small percentage . It goes similar for Pakistani muslim men .
People do evil , and that is why we have the concept of haram . But its a human thing and less of a gender . As being fellow muslim you can help them get out of it or at least show your concern . I believe Islam gives you alternative to any haram act in a halal way . One should encourage them to choose the right path . Leading by example is best way to do it .