And your posts have any point? What is the sense of posting every bombing. We already know what is going to happen. Israel will go in and kill some more innocent Palestinians and try to grab some more land. Hamas and others will strike back again. Don't tell me how bad the Israelis have it. They wanted this and they are getting it. It is very hard to wipe out a people. The Israelis should know. After all there are still Jews in this world. Time for them to give up this idea that they can have all of Palestine. They are not winning. It is obvious.
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You can swap out every single reference to the Jews and Palestinians in this post and it would be just as valid -- so what's the point of that post?
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You can swap out every single reference to the Jews and Palestinians in this post and it would be just as valid -- so what's the point of that post?
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The point is to tell the likes of you what the difference is between an agressor and victim. Israel is the agressor and land grabber. Palestine is the victim and receiver of Israeli agression. The result is a war and things get ugly in a war. That is the point.
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The point is to tell the likes of you what the difference is between an agressor and victim. Israel is the agressor and land grabber. Palestine is the victim and receiver of Israeli agression. The result is a war and things get ugly in a war. That is the point.
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:world's smallest violin:
Re-read history without the biasness. Take off the sand colored glasses. There are not heroes here. There are no innocents. I recognize the violence and agression from both sides, can you?
Well, the point is not that any party is more to blame than the others.
The point is this is a vicious cycle. A "retaliation" strike after a "retaliation" bombing, after a "retaliation" strike... and the cycle goes on.
What is needed is a statesman, who can look beyond the next day. Who can look at the long term future of the region and lead his people to break this vicious cycle.
Palestinians are a people without land. No democracy. No job prospects. No economy. No army. No infrastruture. Their two generations have grown up in refugee camps.
Israel has land. It has a formidable military. A democracy. An economy. Educated workforce. Huge support of world's only super power.
Who has more responsibility to take control of the situation and get out of "I'll bomb you because you bombed me" mentality. Israel desperately needs another Rabin. Their experiments with Netenyahu and Sharon has proved again and again, that brutal repression and merciless killing is not going to make Israel any safer or bring any peace in the region. That, my dear fellow, is my point. Feel free to disagree
The Palestinians need a leader who will lead them and not use them as pawns. Someone who won't pocket the money given by the world to the Palestinians. 50 years and there are still refugee camps? After hundreds of millions of dollars you can't turn that into something?
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Have you guys ever noticed that when ever there is a suicide bombing incident each newspaper puts it in its headlines but when Israeli's roll their tanks into Palestinian areas, literally massacring people, the news goes unnoticied. Even papers like Jang & Dawn has the event in its headlines. Do papers get a commision or something for publishing them in their headlines??
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There is something called "anti-semite". If Israel gets bad publicity due to its action and someone condemns it or reports it with "headlines", thats called "anti-semitism" and condemned "worldwide".
Yeah, when you dont have an answer you revert to "no point". We know you never had a point, your soul purpose is to advance the cause of Zionists, arab killing jews. We get that UTD, your dome has been removed.
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The Palestinians need a leader who will lead them and not use them as pawns. Someone who won't pocket the money given by the world to the Palestinians. 50 years and there are still refugee camps? After hundreds of millions of dollars you can't turn that into something?
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So do the Israelis, a leader who will make the state self sufficient, not reliant on aid (almost $10 B/year). Maybe you should look at hwo much money is given to palestanians as compared to average Israeli? After you look at the figures and still want to spew your jewish propoganda, do come back and let us know.
Kaleem, 50 years and the Palestinians still live in slums. You want to blame Israel fine but clean up your own backyard first, the rampant corruption that has taken place within the Palestinian Leadership is sickening. Israel isn't going anywhere and without an honest and sincere leader leading the PA the Palestinians aren't either, slum on brother.
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Kaleem, 50 years and the Palestinians still live in slums. You want to blame Israel fine but clean up your own backyard first, the rampant corruption that has taken place within the Palestinian Leadership is sickening. Israel isn't going anywhere and without an honest and sincere leader leading the PA the Palestinians aren't either, slum on brother.
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UTD I expected more truth from you, anyway buildings with 30 or more apartments are blown out by IDF each time there is gunfight, so you expect the IDF provides housing for those displaced families? Janin and Khalil (Hebron) are examples of IDF bulldozing, thats the only reason Palestinians in occupied areas are living in slums.
"honest and sincere leaders" why is this requirement just for Palestinians? Or are you saying that Sharon, Bush, Blair, Musharaf are honest and sincere, and you want some one like that to head the Palestinian.
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Kaleem, 50 years and the Palestinians still live in slums. You want to blame Israel fine but clean up your own backyard first, the rampant corruption that has taken place within the Palestinian Leadership is sickening. Israel isn't going anywhere and without an honest and sincere leader leading the PA the Palestinians aren't either, slum on brother.
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I agree with what underthedome said.
Muslims around the world have tedency to blame almost everything on the Jews. This is just like Indian admin blaming every foul activity on Pakistan.
Palestinian leadership and disunity amongst Muslims is as much to blame as Israel is for the chaos in the region.
Dis-unity is to blame for the lack of support politically. It is not to blame for the condition the palestinian people are in right now. Ironically these terrorist groups promote unity far more than our "elected" leaders. I would take Osama Bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda network as a better example of muslim unity and intelligence than a meeting of the ICC. But of course OBL's methods are ruthless and totally unislamic.
Anyway back on track. How many israels died? Not enough. Each palestinian death will be repaid slowly. A nation that has nothing to live for has everything to die for. Imagine the amount of passion and commitment people must have to blow themselves up. Or better yet imagine how much they must suffer mentally and physically to blow themselves up just to kill an israeli.
Call them brainwashed. But i havent seen anybody more brainwashed than an American redneck in the marines.
Anyway a set of lyrics that reflect my views.
I used to think
That only America's way, way was right
But now the holy dollar rules everybody's lives
Gotta make a million doesn't matter who dies
- Queensryche "Revolution Calling"
