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Originally posted by AekKella:
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again the question is wat makes a meat halal ? where does it say in the quran that bismallah must be said before killing the animal only and that i must be killed with a knife and all the blood must come out ??
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Ibrahim says: Hi Aekkella, to understand this we need to understand what Allah (swt) approved first. which means we have to look at the earlier revelations
From the period of Prophet Adam (pbuh) till the Period of Prophet Nuh (pbuh) only vegetarianism was approved for mankind . ( which is the reason why hindus are vegetarians . How do we know this?
We have to refer to the Veda and the Bible to understand this better, the Veda is much more edited and corrupted than the Bible hence we will look at the Bible
Genesis 9
Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth.
The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands.
Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.
"But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.
Ibrahim says; From the above passage it is very clear that meat was approved for mankind from Prophet Nuh’s (pbuh) time and the main condition (halal or haram) was the proper slaughter , which involved the removal of blood from the animal that is to be consumed. (read Gen 9:4 again)
Hence Halal meat must be slaughtered according to what the Allah (swt) had ordained and was taught by the prophets from the time of Prophet Nuh (pbuh)
Now lets look at the Qur’an
Soorah 5:3 & 4
Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat blood the flesh of swine AND THAT ON WHICH HATH BEEN INVOKED THE NAME OF OTHER THAN ALLAH that which hath been killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a headlong fall or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you completed my favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any forced by hunger with no inclination to transgression Allah is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful. 691 692 693 694
4 They ask thee what is lawful to them (as food): say: Lawful unto you are (all) things good and pure: and what ye have taught your trained hunting animals (to catch) in the manner directed to you by Allah; eat what they catch for you BUT PRONOUNCE THE NAME OF ALLAH OVER IT : and fear Allah; for Allah is swift in taking account. 697 698
Commentary by Yusof Ali for the above :-
691 Cf. ii. 173 and nn. 173 and 174. The prohibition of dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which other names than that of Allah have been invoked, has been there explained. (5.3)
692 If an animal dies by strangling, or by a violent blow, or a headlong fall, or by being gored to death, or by being attacked by a wild animal, the presumption is that it becomes carrion, as the life-blood is congealed before being taken out of the body. But the presumption can be rebutted. If the life-blood still flows and the solemn mode of slaughter (zabh in the name of Allah is carried out, it becomes lawful as food. (5.3)
693 This was also an idolatrous rite, different from that in which a sacrifice was devoted to a particular idol or a false god. (5.3)
694 Gambling of all kinds is forbidden; ii. 291. A sort of lottery or raffle practised by Pagan Arabs has been described in n. 241. Division of meat in this way is here forbidden, as it is a form of gambling. (5.3)
697 The previous verse was negative; it defined what was not lawful for food, viz., things gross, or disgusting, or dedicated to superstition. This verse is positive: it defines what is lawful, viz., all things that are good and pure. (5.4)
698 In the matter of the killing for meat, the general rule is that the name of Allah, the true God should be pronounced as a rite in order to call our attention to the fact that we do not take life thoughtlessly but solemnly for food, with the permission of Allah, to whom we render the life back. The question of hunting is then raised. How can this solemn rite be performed when we send forth trained hawks, trained hounds, or trained cheetahs or other animals trained for the chase? They must necessarily kill at some distance from their masters. Their game is legalised on these conditions: (1) that they are trained to kill, not merely for their own appetite, or out of mere wantonness, but for their master's food; the training implies that something of the solemnity which Allah has taught us in this matter goes into their action; and (2) we are to pronounce the name of Allah over the quarry; this is interpreted to mean that the Takbir should be pronounced when the hawk or dog, etc., is released to the quarry. (5.4)
699 The question is for food generally, such as is ordinarily "good and pure": in the matter of meat it should be killed with some sort of solemnity analogous to that of the Takbir. The rules of Islam in this respect being analogous to those of the People of the Book, there is no objection to mutual recognition, as opposed to meat killed by Pagans with superstitious rites. In this respect the Christian rule is the same: "That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication." (Acts, xv. 29). Notice the bracketing of fornication with things unlawful to eat. (5.5)
Ibrahim says: hence saying the NAME OF ALLAH is a commandment given to Muslims before slaughter of an animal that is to be consumed. Failing to do so makes it Haram.
Actions will be judged by their intentions, and every person will be judged accordingly.