H.CLINTON WARNED PAKISTAN

If there is any further terroist attack in USA which showed links with Pakistan
USKE NATAEJ PAKISTAN KE LIYE SANGEEN HONGE…
She accept pakistan doing good job for war against terror but she asked
for much more which Pakistan can still do but not doing..

what we do more ?

What can we do more?

Maybe we can arrest or eliminate jihadi leaders like Masood Azhar who comes and goes to rallies openly despite being a banned terrorist.

Maybe we can arrest people distributing jihadi magazines, CDs and DVDs openly in our markets and during khutbas

Maybe we can stop pretending that there are "pro-Pakistan" Taliban and "bad" Taliban and realize that they are all "bad news" for Pakistan

Maybe we can shut up idiots like Hamid Gul and his ilk

Maybe we can fire people like Rana Sanaullah who releases LJ/SSP terrorists from jail and attends jalsay with them

Maybe we can stop acting surprised when people like Faisal Shahzad are caught

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she can warn but if pakistani eyes come into direct contact with her country, she and her cosy hegemony will be toast. she knows it, the world knows it

you saw mccain in the last presidential campaign say ''dont say it out aloud'' about pakistan, theres a reason for that. once pakistan slips into anti-US mode...they'll be sorry in the end

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delusions of grandeur

pakistan army is both a pawn and potential player in the world power game

yes the consequences for you personally may not be so good, and certainly pakistan will not be in its comfortzone but thats the reality

and theres some evidence pak has planned for this eventuality, including state sponsored wholesale indoctrination of its people in the last few years

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I'd like to see the actual Statement from her. I've seen words twisted in interpretation, rather misinterpretation.

She along with Obama et al have been saying that ever since their campaign started (before the elections), poor Pakistanis in America were asleep?

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@ Sid sorry man, I checked it in BBC.Urdu.Com and I am sure her same statement is in
english papers too, check it out and let me know what she saying:D

guess She is angry about attaack in Times Squre NY
and warned Pakistan Govt. to DO MORE efforts to stop attacks on usa by terrorists who based in pakistan, IF not then be ready for a bad re action

and what is that bad reaction she didnt mentioned it..

I simply have no idea what you mean by that^

Good question and we can do lot more if we stop fooling ourselves. The fact is, the PA is still busy trying to separate good jihadis from bad jihadis. When we realized that there are no good jihadis & that these people are threat to very existence of Pakistan we’d be 1 step closer to eliminating them. Until then nothing will happen, but if there wmd attack in the US we should not expect anyone’s sympathy b/e every major terrorist attack somewhere in the world has connection to Pakistan.

Pakistani militant groups out in the open

Though banned, groups like Jaish-e-Muhammad, which is suspected of having a link to Times Square suspect Faisal Shahzad, are out in the open, with their leaders delivering sermons and holding rallies.

By Alex Rodriguez, Los Angeles Times
May 8, 2010
Reporting from Karachi, Pakistan
The leader of Jaish-e-Muhammad, one of Pakistan’s most feared militant groups, recently drew hundreds of worshipers to the Batha Mosque, where the theme of speeches and sermons often covers the same topic: holy war against the West.

Young men streamed into the beige building in north Karachi chanting “God is great!” on the day Maulana Masood Azhar spoke. Though Jaish-e-Muhammad has been banned in Pakistan since 2002, local police officers joined mosque guards in cordoning off the garbage-strewn dirt lanes surrounding the mosque and providing security for the rally.

“They had metal detectors checking people going in,” said Ali Khan, 27, who works at a barber shop about 50 yards from the mosque’s white iron gate. “The people in this mosque, their main focus is jihad.”

Jaish-e-Muhammad is being scrutinized by U.S. and Pakistani investigators for a possible connection to Faisal Shahzad, the 30-year-old Pakistani-American accused of attempting to detonate a car bomb last week in New York City’s Times Square.

Pakistani authorities arrested at least four suspected Jaish-e-Muhammad members in Karachi this week, including Mohammed Rehan, who in July allegedly drove Shahzad to the northwestern city of Peshawar, the gateway to the country’s Taliban-filled tribal areas.

In light of the Shahzad case, the U.S. probably will push Pakistan to clamp down on groups such as Jaish-e-Muhammad that harbor bitter hatred for the United States and have begun to establish links with Al Qaeda and the Pakistani Taliban. Pakistan’s record in enforcing its ban on militant groups has been poor, Pakistani analysts said.

In Karachi, banned militant groups routinely dispatch workers to mosques where they have strong followings to pass out jihad pamphlets and compact discs, said Raza Hassan, a Karachi-based crime reporter for Dawn, a Pakistani English-language newspaper.

“Authorities have not come down hard on Jaish-e-Muhammad or any of these banned outfits,” Hassan said. “They seem to lack a policy.”

If there has been a policy, it has been one that publicly condemns certain militant groups while discreetly allowing them to function under the radar. To facilitate their operations, some extremist organizations have created humanitarian front groups with different names that raise funds for building schools and healthcare clinics. What’s not known is how much of that money gets channeled to militant activities.

“Usually when the government bans these militant groups, they suddenly start welfare work,” said Yusuf Khan, a Karachi-based analyst. “During the earthquake in Kashmir in 2005, Jaish-e-Muhammad began helping people and rebuilding. That’s their technique: to become philanthropic and get sympathy.”

One reason groups such as Jaish-e-Muhammad are allowed to operate is because historically they have set their primary target as India, Pakistan’s nuclear-armed rival, experts said.

Lashkar-e-Taiba, the militant group alleged to have engineered the 2008 attacks in Mumbai that killed 166 people, is banned in Pakistan but continues to operate under the banner of Jamaat-ud-Dawa, which runs hospitals and schools throughout the country. Though the West regards Lashkar-e-Taiba as a terrorist organization, the group’s founder, Hafiz Saeed, moves freely through Pakistan and periodically delivers sermons at a mosque in Lahore.

U.S. officials and others in the West worry that Jaish-e-Muhammad and Lashkar-e-Taiba may be operating training compounds in Pakistan’s volatile tribal belt along the Afghan border. Experts doubt that the Shahzad case will prod Pakistani authorities to crack down on those groups.

“I’m afraid it will be life as normal,” said Yusuf Khan. “There is a lot of sympathy among many in law enforcement for these people. You cannot wipe this out.”

It is widely believed that Pakistan’s intelligence community helped form Jaish-e-Muhammad in the mid-1990s to battle Indian forces in the Indian-administered section of Kashmir. Later, however, the group widened its mission, training thousands of recruits to fight U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan. Jaish-e-Muhammad is also linked to the 2002 kidnapping and killing of Wall Street Journal correspondent Daniel Pearl.

Jaish-e-Muhammad’s leader, Azhar, lives in Bahawalpur, a southern Punjab city and the militant group’s home base. When he comes to Karachi, he usually heads to the North Nazimabad neighborhood, where he makes periodic appearances at the Batha Mosque, Ali Khan and other residents said.

Shopkeepers and neighbors near the mosque’s 10-foot perimeter wall said they tolerate a nervous co-existence with the mosque.

“We’re always fearful that something’s going to happen there,” says Shahzad Ali, a 35-year-old grocery shop owner, “and that in the process, we’ll become victims.”

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so its seems clear that ISI Army playing a different game
and
so called politicla leaders playing a different one right ?

and public in middle of bad or good taleban or jihadies and USA are paying the
prise right ?

u guys know what ? we can do nothing but just watched and see each other dying

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FBI is coming to Pakistan to investigate here. This nut case must have revealed something. Barhay maan baap ki bigrhi hoee aulaad. He never realized that Pakistanis in USA and in Canada are suffering after 911. God forbid, if that bomb exploded killed people at Times Square, what could have been the reaction of local Americans? The only targets would have been innocent hard working Pakistanis living here for years. One of the reason why professional Pakistanis are now driving taxis and doing labor jobs because of bad name to the country mostly because of these nut cases. Some one in the government/military is involved, I hope FBI will catch that b@stard. Hilary Clinton is right in saying so.

Here is the link ur looking for, 60min broadcast on CBS to be aired on sunday.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/14-severe-consequences-in-case-of-ttack-clinton-02-sa

WASHINGTON: Pakistan faces “very severe consequences” if a terror plot like the failed Times Square bombing was traced to that country, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in remarks made public on Saturday.
However Clinton also acknowledged Pakistan’s increased cooperation in the war on terror, but said the United States expected more.
“We’ve made it very clear that if – heaven-forbid – an attack like this that we can trace back to Pakistan were to have been successful, there would be very severe consequences,” Clinton told CBS’s “60 Minutes” program, according to excerpts released by the TV network.
The interview is scheduled to be broadcast Sunday.
Faisal Shahzad, a Pakistani-born US citizen whose large but poorly-made bomb failed to detonate in New York’s Times Square a week ago, has been grilled since he was arrested Monday aboard a plane as it prepared to take off for Dubai.
The 30-year-old son of a retired Pakistani Air Force officer is facing five terror charges.
Shahzad’s family knew at least two key Pakistani militants who were involved in terrorist activities, The Los Angeles Times reported late Friday.
Clinton said Pakistan’s attitude toward fighting terrorists had changed remarkably.
“We’ve gotten more cooperation and it’s been a real sea change in the commitment we’ve seen from the Pakistan government,” she said.
“We want more. We expect more,” she added.
Meanwhile, The Washington Post reported Saturday that a Federal Bureau of Investigation team arrived in Pakistan on Friday, with investigators focusing on whether foreign terrorist money helped finance the operation.

Seems as if the cat is coming out of the bag now.

you always managed to make me laugh… :hehe:

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what i said is actually true, depending on the stance the army takes. if youve got alternative views express them

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well situtation is like the story of Owner and his camel

sorry I forfet full story LOL

but its goes like that in a rainy night camel asked or requested his owner if he
allow his just tail to get in tent from saved to rain and owner allowed it
and later slowly slowly camel get in fully in the tent and owner has no way but
go out ?

I am not in both side

I dont like corrupt mullahs and politicians and also dirty/tricky american foreign policies
special towards muslim countries

peace

some people actually have insight. they can see thru the nationalism veil that you can’t see thru apparently. :rolleyes:

start analyzing, stop recycling media bs.

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And what would be those "Severe Consequences" As Pakistani, we are already suffering from many crisis at a time, adding one more to them would not make our lives hell bent, and yes, if Americans have this attitude that they'll punish Pakistan for something happening in their country, then i can say that, whatever Pakistan may do, will never please Americans and the day they find themselves in good shape to invade Pakistan, they'll do so, although this will be not the last battle but it is going to be brutal... so many lives will be lost, but looking in American history, they don't care if the dead ones are non- americans...

The point is, the statement of Hillary is not out because of some nut case has done something wrong, it is out because this is what they had from day one... a fire craker in USA and they'll invade Pakistan ( i don't know what other severe consequences she is talking about)...

It is about time for Pakistan to smell the coffee and work-out the relationships with USA, but for this we need leaders who have balls, and balls of our political leadership has been shredded...

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I think hilary's statement is for Indian consumption.