Guys and girls can not be friends.

And those who say otherwise are indeed HYPOCRITES.

The more friendly you are with the opposite gender, the bigger FLIRT and hypocrite you are.

One can decide the level of someone’s flirtatiousness by how many “friends” of the opposite gender they have or how friendly they are with na-mehrams.

From a girl’s perspective: If you’re too friendly with a guy you might be leading him on without intending to do that. That is a sin. If a guy is too friendly with you his intention might be to not lead you on either but you might get led on b/c at some point you lost a grip on yourself (gave in to the whisperings of Satan) or b/c you misunderstand the guy’s friendliness and decide to “reciprocate”.

We’re not babies, I think all of us know this.

HOW the heck can people claim that they intended their relatonship with someone of the opposite gender to be totally platonic? I don’t get it. They are obviously lying through their teeth.

There is a reason why free mixing is not allowed in Islam. Human nature usually is prone to sin and is weak, not all human beings have excellent self control and even if YOU do what is the guarantee that the other person does? So its a sin to create or be part of a situation where that can happen.

HMMMMMMMMMMM.

These were my honest two cents. I’m not an angel either. But this is my true conclusion.

salams

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it may be true in your case but sex is not the only thing in others' minds all the time.. there are a few human beings too on this planet..

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:rolleyes: ^^ HYPOCRITE # 1

don’t justify something that is wrong please. if you don’t have it in you to stick to the right path, atleast don’t be a hypocrite by saying that the wrong path is indeed the right one.

that just doubles the original sin and makes things even worse.

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Irem,

Respectfully, I believe you're wrong. It is possible to be friends with others and not think of sex. If you are brought up in a society were men and women have equal footing and are used to dealing with each other as people rather than walking dates, then it is possible (even essential in a working enviroment).

I am absolutely devoted to my husband, I love him, I think of him constantly, and I talk about him to the point of nasuea to anyone around me.

No one EVER misunderstands my friendship. I have male friends my husband has met and even approved, an essential part of having friends of the opposite sex when married. One was a man I dated briefly who went on to marry another. Still a friend.

Just another view is all.

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Irem, at least have sex with the person before you can say you can be friends or not. If the sex isn;t good, then there is no need to be friends.

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Okay what’s the point of ur post? no specific problem or inquiry, just stating ur opinion..hmm…waisey i dunno if i agree wit u or not…experience tells me that I shudn’t be friends with guys (n im not) …but that being said…i do know ppl who have truly platonic relationships…the friendships might not be right, but i don’t think there’s ALWAYS the chance of flirting or whatever going on…one girl i know she’s very religious but shes’ friends with almost every single guy in my college and they all respect her n stuff…My best friend she has nothin but guy friends (i’m her only saheli :blush: :smiley: ) but shes’ never fallen in love with any of em..then again she’s not desi or muslim so dunno if that makes any difference..coz from wat i’ve seen, your views, minus the Islam/sin part, isn’t limited to just muslims or pakis, it affects ppl of all races n ethnicities…i know lots of non-desis who say men adn women can not be platonic, w/o bringing religion into it… So there are people who can control themselves and stuff in that kind of situation and just truly dont’ see their friends in that way…I can understand that…

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minah_pa yes I agree with you. I interact with some married guys daily and OBVIOUSLY I don't think of them as "Walking Dates" as you said. However, if someone is not married, then does the thought not cross your mind and if it does not cross your mind is there a guarantee that it will not cross theirs?

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What the heck :confused: Matsui, please dont post weirdness in this thread. Mods, please prune out irrelevant replies.

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Irum, people are not familiar with the concept of na-mehram, so you will see a lot of Muslims hypocrites.

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Sara yeah jus stating my opinion yaar :) And thanks for sharing your thoughts. BTW, Welcome back from Pakistan. I read some things you said about your trip. Seems like you had fun :)

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MiniMe what exactly do you mean??? Please explain further. I didn’t actually get what you were trying to say. Thanks :slight_smile:

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What is weird about it Irem. Unless you have had sex with the friend..how would you know if you could be friends or not?

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Irem,

Sorry, the thought does not cross my mind, one of the side effects of marrying for love and still being afflicted that way now.

I am not responsible for the thoughts of others, I have enough problems running my own home and worrying about that. Anyone who I believe may have any thoughts that way I avoid or bore to death with stories about my husband. Simple :D

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minah_pa you are married na thats why, I'm talking abt unmarried ppl :)

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hey how do u know its wrong if u havent experienced it before??? maybe u are the kind of person who sees any and every guy as a d!ck with a body around it but i certainly dont see women as walkin-talkin milk depots… i agree u cud have ur own opinion but pls dun criticize my opinion as fake only cuz u dont get it :mad2:

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Because I don’t view all girls as being walking talking potential mates. I see the personality, not the gender. And I am sure the ones that i’m friends with have to same attitude towards me. Frankly, if I do suspect that one of my female friends may not be being entirely platonic, I’ll sharply reduce the amount of contact I have with her for a while. Normally, that resolves the problem.

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mad scientist you are a flirt. I have decided that based on the fact that you seem to have a lot of "female friends".

Take off the cloak of hypocrisy.

:p

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Ahhh, but I have male friends, in fact more male than female, thought it pertained to me.

You didn't say that in your original post.

Had most of them as friends after my first husband died, also. Does that count? :)

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True, I have lots of female friends. I won't deny that. I don't see the hypocracy, because I never suggest to them that I would want to be anything more than friends with them, nor do I want to be.

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So what should be done Irem, since we are all headed towards hell, according to you?