Sorry Nadia_H..but i gotta point out a mistake by u… on ur audio gallery post u posted DESERT ROSE.
http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75237
This is clearly breaking copyright laws. The law states that movies/music is not for public viewing/hearing.
Let me hear their side of story
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This is clearly breaking copyright laws. The law states that movies/music is not for public viewing/hearing.
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i appreciate your raising this important point, HSKhan.
You are absolutely accurate that copyright laws are in existence to protect materials from being publicly viewed/broadcasted.
On an average basis, there is a great deal of information - both print and multimedia - that is posted up on Gupshup.
Many of the articles that are utilized for news discussions may have copyright laws attached to them, (these are usually not too strict at all, typically requiring the individual copying that information to simply notify the relevant authority, for example, sending a quick letter to the Washington Post to let them know that you are utilizing one of their articles). Now in my own personal opinion, to impose limitations on each and every piece of information that is disseminated on this board, would run into severe problems from a pragmatic point of view. Not only Sting's Desert Rose, but i have posted several other pieces in the Audio Forum; however, that particular song in fact is freely available from an extremely popular Arab music site. In your opinion would this Arab music website be in violation of copyright laws?
i wholly appreciate that my posting up that piece is probably against some copyright law(s) somewhere in the world, no point in disputing that whatsoever. A personal example - i am certain many of us have taped interesting shows/movies/documentaries that have been aired publicly on TV, onto our personal videotapes. i remember in highschool one of my profs was telling us that here in Canada doing that in itself is a copyright infringement. While i do believe in utterly appreciating the existence of these copyright laws and their necessity, i think to enforce them throughout in a holistic manner would be rather impractical. That would also defeat the entire purpose of (and personal enjoyment derived from) sharing enjoyable pieces with others that we think may be interesting (such as audio pieces) and/or informative (such as news articles).
A boring, long-winded answer to a straightforward question. :~) Please let me know if i have not satisfactorily addressed your issue.
Regards,
nadia
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HSkhan, please don't tell me that everything running on your computer is perfectly legit and fully licensed.
HSKhan,
You will be pleased to note that the offending post has been edited. My thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Best regards,
nadia
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HSkhan, please don't tell me that everything running on your computer is perfectly legit and fully licensed.
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Whatever i have on my pc, is on a private machine. When u post something online for the whole world to see its different.
So let me get this straight, hskhan. It's perfectly OK to download and swap songs from the 'public' sites onto the private ones. It may not be a copyright violation when we run boot-legged software on our own 'private' computers, but when we see a mod posting a song in GS' audio gallery, it is OK to make hue and cry about the whole situation and accuse others of indulging in copyright violations. How do the copyright rules apply differently from public to private usages? Please clearly explain. Now, do you also go to sites such as kazaa and make a big fuss about copyright violation, since you seem to be such anequivocal supporter of the record industry when it comes to copright issues?
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So let me get this straight, hskhan. It's perfectly OK to download and swap songs from the 'public' sites onto the private ones. It may not be a copyright violation when we run boot-legged software on our own 'private' computers, but when we see a mod posting a song in GS' audio gallery, it is OK to make hue and cry about the whole situation and accuse others of indulging in copyright violations. How do the copyright rules apply differently from public to private usages? Please clearly explain. Now, do you also go to sites such as kazaa and make a big fuss about copyright violation, since you seem to be such anequivocal supporter of the record industry when it comes to copright issues?
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yes i do all of the above.
by downloading music, the song stays on my computer. the whole world doesnt listen to it. yes, its still illegal, but not nearly as illegal as if i posted the song on internet, where other people downloaded it..thats a much severe crime because i have acted as a provider for this illegal material.
would you go after a druggie who smokes alone,
or would you go after a druggie who supplies drugs to thousands of others?
This is blatant hypocrisy dude. If you feel perfectly OK with subscription to the music swapping services, it makes you equally guilty of copyright infringements- either by hosting music to be exchanged or downloading music from others. If you use any of the services, in most cases your files directories are broadcasted ‘publicly” on the net, so the others can download, and you may think that the subscription is only for the private usage, but in reality it's not. So, it does not give you enough credibility to accuse others of committing copyright violations when you are guilty yourself.
We dont allow file uploads. Last time I checked...our users were recording from speaker to mic. Hardly the premier quality to be whining about.
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We dont allow file uploads. Last time I checked...our users were recording from speaker to mic. Hardly the premier quality to be whining about.
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isnt filming movies with video cameras also illegal? its cheap quality.:p
abay moddys. you dont get my point. if someone catches u doing this stuff and pursues u in court..ull get ur ass whopped.
btw there is a difference in PROMOTING copywrite infrigment and doing it for personal use.
Not to worry hskhan. Those who are concerned with the copyright violations, I am sure they have bigger fish to fry. And what point are you trying to make regarding the video cameras..?!? lost me there.
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Not to worry hskhan. Those who are concerned with the copyright violations, I am sure they have bigger fish to fry. And what point are you trying to make regarding the video cameras..?!? lost me there.
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who--me wrote :*Hardly the premier quality to be whining about. *
so thats why i brought up using vid cameras to record movies from cinemas.
hskhan, you seem to be moving from one point to another. First you mentioned that it's OK to copy songs/software for personal usage, without providing any legal justification. And now you are stating that, " there's a diffference between PROMOTING copyright violations and using it for personal usage". Who is PROMOTING copyright infringements on this site and in what manner ? Also, can you quote any laws which can underline the DIFFERENCE you are pointing towards, or onnce again, is it just your own opinion??
The 'Camera Prints' are made and sold by video pirates for financial gain. AG is for sharing Audio where 30 messages are non-music and maybe one or two are music. I have yet to see a really famous top of the charts song there.
Btw..why is this thread targetted at Mods? ;-) Why not the whole AG?
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The 'Camera Prints' are made and sold by video pirates for financial gain. AG is for sharing Audio where 30 messages are non-music and maybe one or two are music. I have yet to see a really famous top of the charts song there.
Btw..why is this thread targetted at Mods? ;-) Why not the whole AG?
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just to catch some attention;)
ok yaar(s) u win. happy? so i guess I can start posting my creed mp3s
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Whatever i have on my pc, is on a private machine. When u post something online for the whole world to see its different.
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No offence...!!!
But NO, its not different.. Its called double standards, hypocrisy
You see, The same law applies for private use and for public use as you stated above.
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HSkhan, please don't tell me that everything running on your computer is perfectly legit and fully licensed.
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two wrongs don't make one right.
Nescio: what exactly do you mean ? If someone is willing to put up laws in detail which outline the copyright violations, I am sure we can carry on with this debate. Otherwise, I don't think mere finger pointing deserves much respect. It's simply shallow!
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Nescio: what exactly do you mean ? If someone is willing to put up laws in detail which outline the copyright violations, I am sure we can carry on with this debate. Otherwise, I don't think mere finger pointing deserves much respect. It's simply shallow!
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ok...just for ur info. ive deleted all the "illegal" material off my pc. now mods, please go around gupshup and delete all your "illegal" material. thank you.