Gujrati Muslims are doing Shirk

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Due to the above, the Fuqahaa (Jurists) have stated that among Arabs, a non-Quraishi male is not a match (Kuf) for a Quraishi woman, nor can any person of non-Arab descent be a match for a woman of Arab descent.

For example, the Sayyids, whether Siddique or Farooque, Uthmaani or Alawi, or belonging to some other branch can never be matched by any person not sharing their lineage, no matter his profession and family status. These families (Sayyids, etc.) are suitable matches for one another, since they share descent from the Quraishi tribe. Thus, marriages between themselves are correct and permitted without any condition as appearing in Darrul Mukhtaar:

‘… And Kafaa’at in lineage. Thus the Quraysh are suitable matches for one another as are the (other) Arabs suitable matches for one another.’

The ruling relevant to non-Arabs is as follows: ‘An Ajmi (non-Arab) cannot be a match for a woman of Arab descent, no matter that he be an Aalim (religious scholar) or even a Sultan (ruling authority). This is the correct view.)

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he wanted her filthy rich, and to move to the UAE after the wedding. not happening.

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What the heck is the problem though? There are hundreds of of things Pakistani muslims do that were not Islamic either. So you're calling all that shirk?

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Yes, shirk is shirk whoever does it. One has to know the meaning of Shirk.

Be clear on this.

And it does not matter who does it. Islam does not differentiate base on where you belong to!

WHY DO PEOPLE COMMENT ON ISLAM WHEN THEY NEVER EVER GOT THE MEANING OF ISLAM???

ANS: Dumb people who have nothing better to do but to criticise Islam!!!

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Hi, Deedawar, how are you?
Found any sensible link to prove that Indira Gandhi retaliated for 1000 years of slavery in 1971???:jhanda:

I think Islam means ‘Submission’. Do you want to say that only intelligent people submit to Islam???

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surely whoever holds such views has no idea of even the basic fundamental issues of Islam…
who wrote such senseless and unislamic things???

rvikz where did u get it from???

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^ this is the typical problem.

Everytime someone shows up with a compelling arguement about errors and inonsistencies, the so called experts readily come up with "oh yeah - you don't understand Islam". Except such times have become numerous and the norm.

Why does Quran say that? - oh, that was not in the original

Why does this Malvi say this? - oh, that's not what Quran says

Why does this fatwa come about? - oh, that guy is an extremist

Why do so many youth join LeT et al? - oh not really, that's a small minority

Why does the entire province elect that party then? - oh, that province is backward

.....

come on guys....when are we gonna own up?

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A load of fcuking bollocks!!!

It’s usually only Desi’s who give any importance to such absurd verdicts, a few centuries ago a minority cleric who happened to be racist came up with such nonesense and then other racist clerics who followed later propogated his views, we don’t care for what these dimwit clerics have got to say we follow the Qur’aan and Sunnah.

These are certainly not Islamic views, there is no heirachy in Islam we follow God :swt: and His last Prophet :saw: anything which contradicts either of them is total rubbish…

If the Prophet :saw: accepted inter-racial and inter-tribal marriages for his companions and for himself then I don’t see why Muslims of today should have a problem with it.

Nobody in Islam has the authority to make something Haram which Allah has made Halal.

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I don’t know many Arab-Paki couples but have heard of plenty of cases from family and it’s usually accepted by both sides… I know of one incident where it didn’t work out but they were Shia’s and I think the Paki Shia was better of with a Paki anyhow because Paki Shia girls are more pure and clean compared to Arab Shia girls because Paki Shia’s don’t do Mut’ah.

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All of above arguments except the first one can be true.
No one argues against what’s in Quran..you just made it up!

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it can be interpreted in many ways. kill idol worshipper can be interpreted in different ways
either it was during conflict in early islam between both groups. or it can applied to
any idolworshipper or anybody uses images in worship?

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Taking things out of context again?

Off course the "context" is IN Quran, so no arguments against Quran can hold.
In other threads this has been discussed in detail so refer to those posts.

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Sialkotis are doing shirk by making cricket bats, and soccer balls. soccer and cricket are religions to many people. :-O

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queer you always make me laugh!

thanks!

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I’m not a religious expert AT ALL, but even I know that this is utter bullshiit. Yes, it’s fine and dandy for two people getting married to have a common background, however there is nothign remotely Islamic about non-Arabs being forbidden for Arabs. This is cultural arrogance at its best :rolleyes:

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Hahaha
Same here :biggthumb

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Dear Deedawar and Lahor981...nice to see you again or I was under impression that you have escaped.
So..you do not have any sound and sensible prove to my querries...that Indira Gandhi said that she retaliated for 1000 years of slavery by defeating your country in 1971?

No problem...next time be careful and get rid of your complexes!

Though one thing you have proved how much garbage is there in your study system.

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Still very amusing :-)

Read my previous posts for the response.

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deedwater who is going identify these people and declare they are non-muslims
for the shirk? local islamic relgious leaders or from pakistan islamic jurists?