Gujrat Temple in Seige !!! 25 Killed

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*Originally posted by rvikz: *
still idont undersatnd how volence will help indian muslims
i dont know majority of indian muslims want to adopt your solution.
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rvikj ji - so far, That's not my solution. But cant say for sure it wont be my solution - If I have to go through these people's trauma and pain.

It is very easy to declare who is a terrorist and who is not while sitting in a cosy airconditioned room.

Also - not every soul is as strong as you. Still you didn't answer my question about why did Modi decide to take a GAURAV YATRA ? What kind of Gaurav he saw in those riots ??

what are you saying bad policies can be corrected by attacking
the train and temple is this only way left for indian muslims?
still how you can solve the problem attacking innocent people
same way muslims were attaked. if you legitimise train buring
they legitimise the same only difference is number of people
killed by muslims may bel less but the both are bad and irrational
methods .if you kill 10 they kill 1000 only difference is numbers
but the action of both are wrong.

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*Originally posted by rvikz: *
what are you saying bad policies can be corrected by attacking
the train and temple is this only way left for indian muslims?
still how you can solve the problem attacking innocent people
same way muslims were attaked. if you legitimise train buring
they legitimise the same only difference is number of people
killed by muslims may bel less but the both are bad and irrational
methods .if you kill 10 they kill 1000 only difference is numbers
but the action of both are wrong.
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Yes both are wrong.
By the way ..There is a difference ..In one case some lunatic stupid individual go and do it. In other case its the Government who is doing it and then they take pride in it.

But you havent still answered about MODI , ADVANI and VAJPAYEE !!!!

What are your views on them? what is the Gaurav they are talking about?

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*Originally posted by rvikz: *
what are you saying bad policies can be corrected by attacking
the train and temple is this only way left for indian muslims?
still how you can solve the problem attacking innocent people
same way muslims were attaked. if you legitimise train buring
they legitimise the same only difference is number of people
killed by muslims may bel less but the both are bad and irrational
methods .if you kill 10 they kill 1000 only difference is numbers
but the action of both are wrong.
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rvikz ji you are putting words in my mouth - I clearly said - So Far it is not my way. But If (God Forbid) I get no help from the govt who is supposed to protect me and my family from these rapists and butchers - I would prefer to die (and kill them before they touch our women and kill our babies again).

I dont think those who are doing this in Gujrat have any choice left.

i agreee with you goverment should have protected the innoncent
muslims after train attack . majority has more responsibility
in protecting helpless minorities since they are in control of overall
situation.

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*Originally posted by Asif_k: *

rvikj ji - so far, That's not my solution. But cant say for sure it wont be my solution - If I have to go through these people's trauma and pain.

It is very easy to declare who is a terrorist and who is not while sitting in a cosy airconditioned room.

Also - not every soul is as strong as you. Still you didn't answer my question about why did Modi decide to take a GAURAV YATRA ? What kind of Gaurav he saw in those riots ??
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he reminds me of a hutu leader.

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*Originally posted by rvikz: *
i agreee with you goverment should have protected the innoncent
muslims after train attack . majority has more responsibility
in protecting helpless minorities since they are in control of overall
situation.
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I was expecting much stronger condemnation .But you are no different from average Hindus who may say it was bad but in their heart they think what MODI did was great.

Quote: Andha _Qanoon

I was expecting much stronger condemnation .But you are no different from average Hindus who may say it was bad but in their heart they think what MODI did was great.


How far you are my friend from Reality! I feel utterly disgusted at what has happened in Gujarat riots.

I know some of my friends, give statements like,“These people need to be taught a lesson”, but majority of the times it is in the heat of the moment. Later when they got the news about what was happening in Gujarat, there is utter Revulsion.

I do not care for Modi or Advani, but for Vajpayee yes!. He is a moderate and we need guys like him.


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During this incident Vajpayee cut short his trip to Maldives and came back to India.Why didnt he do it when Gujrat was burning?


Do you find any retaliation by Hindus after the Temple massacre, No!. The fact is that in the previous tragedy many things went wrong, like none of the leaders were forthright enough to condemn the Godhra incident, as they have done now.
The media did not relay the views of the prominent muslims after the Godhra, unlike now.
Vajpayee did not visit Godhra also, where 59 people were burnt alive! but decided to cut short his visit now.
Most important is people have learnt a lesson. They know that violence takes them nowhere.

If we remain divided, it is so easy for our enemies to take advantage of the situation. Imagine our enemies succeed in sending operatives to bomb a few temples and masjid’s, again we will be in turmoil.


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why did Modi decide to take a GAURAV YATRA ? What kind of Gaurav he saw in those riots ??


Modi decided to capitalise on the communal divide that he has achieved. Also, he wanted to keep the memories of “His Victory” fresh among the people to leverage political mileage in the forth coming elections. Hence the Gaurav YAtra’s and all other gimmick’s.


I would like my friends here to just see what reaction does people give me. Asif_K, I agree that I have not lost my near and dear one’s but still understand the pain and suffering it might cause. I would suggest you to have a look at the recent news about the feelings of the people who lost their near and Dear one’s.

““My sister is serious, my brother-in-law is no more and I am the one who will have to bear this personal loss. But we have got to keep the country together. We have to stop hate campaigns,” said a grief stricken Jaspreet Chhabra.”

“I have already lost my son. I just want to make one plea - nobody needs to take revenge. I want to tell the politicians not to use this incident. I don’t want anyone else to lose their children like I have,” said Puja Haathi from Ahmedabad’s satellite road area who lost her 3-year- old son and both her in-laws."

Source:
http://www.ndtv.com

And an update of the investigations from Gujarat…


In a major breakthrough in the investigations into the Akshardham temple attack in Gandhinagar, the police have apparently now identified the two terrorists as belonging to Pakistan.

While one of them has been identified as Mohd Amjad Bhai of Lahore, the other is Hafiz Yasir of Attock, near Islamabad.

The police have also picked up the driver and owner of the car in which the terrorists came to the temple.

The driver, Raju is now being interrogated and claims the terrorists came to Ahmedabad on the Howrah Express on the day of the attack.

The car was a white ambassador on hire and Raju claims he did not know his passengers were terrorists.

The number plate of the car is GJ-1U2234 and the terrorists paid a fare of Rs 200 for the trip from Kalupur station to the Akshardham temple.

The attack at the Akshardham complex took place on Tuesday when two terrorists armed with AK-47s and hand grenades simply walked in through one of the temple gates.

Hundreds of worshippers who had gathered for the evening prayers became easy targets for the terrorists. 30 people died in this attack and over 70 have been injured.

http://www.ndtv.com/

these people are outsiders with a evil intent to create all india
communal war to damage economy and tear apart social fabric
why local muslims would do that where they can get austrian grenades ?
also modi should be blamed for creating such a atmohphere where
outsiders can take advantage.

I was afraid of this! after Advanoo sniffed the undies of the dead boys he also made sure they were circumcised. Then he found the following in their pockets:-

Paki Passport (with visa :D)
NADRA ID card
ISI ID card
Paki rupee
ISI phone number
GHQ phone number
PakTel cellular phone
Beef Tika Boti wraped in a foil
Address of the dead in Gulburgh Lahore
Paki Choclates and lot more..

Gentlemen do you need more proof they were bad bad Pakis...

Dear Victory

I agree with most of what you said but not that "VAJPAYEE IS MODERATE".He just acts moderate to be PM. He is the one of teh most dumb leaders that we have.I wonder why his Speech writer dont edit his speeches before he opens his mouth. He One of the most dogla speaker we have ever seen. About why He didnt go to Gujrat?Well I could have taken the reason that He didnt expect it ( which is a lie by the way) if he didnt go there for 1 week. But within one week All the media was full fo Gujrat and everybody knew that there was something grossly wrong.But this guy waited for 2 months to go there and then showed some crocodiles tear and made then inflamatroy speeches in Banglore and Singapore.His view changes depending upoun Audience.

Anyway ,Appreciated your comments.It was good.
But sadly there are very few people who really think like you.

rvikz, even though I dont endorse this act of terrorism, I must remind you once again your fake secular mask is being snatched off... Whats next? Last time you said that those 2000 ppl who torched the train were ISI agents, whats your excuse this time?

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*Originally posted by rvikz: *
these people are outsiders with a evil intent to create all india
communal war to damage economy and tear apart social fabric
why local muslims would do that where they can get austrian grenades ?
also modi should be blamed for creating such a atmohphere where
outsiders can take advantage.
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Ah, of-course, the 'phoren' hand mantra.

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*Originally posted by 2bornot2b: *

Ah, of-course, the 'phoren' hand mantra.
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haha

:hehe:

these attackers are from gujarati slums with austrian grenades and ak-47 what a joke.

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*Originally posted by rvikz: *
these attackers are from gujarati slums with austrian grenades and ak-47 what a joke.
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What are you implying? The ISI now has influence over gujrati slums?

terrorists were Mohammad Amjad from Lahore and Hafiz Yassir from Attock in Pakistan.

Now we know what happened to the plane load of Pakistani prisoners that were sent to India from Afghanistan :)