Guantanamo prisoners; Innocent says Bush

George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld covered up that hundreds of innocent men were sent to the Guantánamo Bay prison camp because they feared that releasing them would harm the push for war in Iraq and the broader War on Terror, according to a new document obtained by The Times.

The accusations were made by Lawrence Wilkerson, a top aide to Colin Powell, the former Republican Secretary of State, in a signed declaration to support a lawsuit filed by a Guantánamo detainee. It is the first time that such allegations have been made by a senior member of the Bush Administration.

Colonel Wilkerson, who was General Powell’s chief of staff when he ran the State Department, was most critical of Mr Cheney and Mr Rumsfeld. He claimed that the former Vice-President and Defence Secretary knew that the majority of the initial 742 detainees sent to Guantánamo in 2002 were innocent but believed that it was “politically impossible to release them”.

General Powell, who left the Bush Administration in 2005, angry about the misinformation that he unwittingly gave the world when he made the case for the invasion of Iraq at the UN, is understood to have backed Colonel Wilkerson’s declaration.

     Colonel Wilkerson, a long-time critic of the Bush Administration’s approach to  counter-terrorism and the war in Iraq, claimed that the majority of  detainees — children **as young as 12 and men as old as 93**, he said — never  saw a US soldier when they were captured. He said that **many were turned over  by Afghans and Pakistanis for up to $5,000. Little or no evidence was  produced as to why they had been taken. **

He also claimed that one reason Mr Cheney and Mr Rumsfeld did not want the innocent detainees released was because “the detention efforts would be revealed as the incredibly confused operation that they were”. This was “not acceptable to the Administration and would have been severely detrimental to the leadership at DoD [Mr Rumsfeld at the Defence Department]”.

Referring to Mr Cheney, Colonel Wilkerson, who served 31 years in the US Army, asserted: “He had absolutely no concern that the vast majority of Guantánamo detainees were innocent … If hundreds of innocent individuals had to suffer in order to detain a handful of hardcore terrorists, so be it.”

He alleged that for Mr Cheney and Mr Rumsfeld “innocent people languishing in Guantánamo for years was justified by the broader War on Terror and the small number of terrorists who were responsible for the September 11 attacks”.
He added: “I discussed the issue of the Guantánamo detainees with Secretary Powell. I learnt that it was his view that it was not just Vice-President Cheney and Secretary Rumsfeld, but also President Bush who was involved in all of the Guantánamo decision making.”

Mr Cheney and Mr Rumsfeld, Colonel Wilkerson said, deemed the incarceration of innocent men acceptable if some genuine militants were captured, leading to a better intelligence picture of Iraq at a time when the Bush Administration was desperate to find a link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11, “thus justifying the Administration’s plans for war with that country”.

He signed the declaration in support of Adel Hassan Hamad, a Sudanese man who was held at Guantánamo Bay from March 2003 until December 2007. Mr Hamad claims that he was tortured by US agents while in custody and yesterday filed a damages action against a list of American officials.
Defenders of Guantánamo said that detainees began to be released as early as September 2002, nine months after the first prisoners were sent to the jail at the US naval base in Cuba. By the time Mr Bush left office more than 530 detainees had been freed.

A spokesman for Mr Bush said of Colonel Wilkerson’s allegations: “We are not going to have any comment on that.” A former associate to Mr Rumsfeld said that Mr Wilkerson’s assertions were completely untrue.
The associate said the former Defence Secretary had worked harder than anyone to get detainees released and worked assiduously to keep the prison population as small as possible. Mr Cheney’s office did not respond.
There are currently about 180 detainees left in the facility.
George W. Bush ‘knew Guantánamo prisoners were innocent’ - Times Online

There you have it, another piece saying they were innocent! We, the truth seeking people knew this all along. But, those Islamophobes and hypocrites amongst us were all along supporting and continue to support this system. What do you have to say now?!

More details on Gitmo, the farce

So how many people argue that only a handful of Gitmo detainees were innocent?

George W. Bush ‘knew Guantánamo prisoners were innocent’ - Times Online

What do people think of this article? Is Wilkerson lying?

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Nope but this is not a surprise for people who have an independent thought process.

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but its necessary bcoz they are tribals and have tribal mentality.

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Yeah and they have their facio-jihadist Islamists ideology that is just plain evil!

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There must have been severe corruption in the process of sending detainees over.

Having been sent to Guantanamo, all but 5 of the prisoners were set free in Pakistan by the same Musharraf goverment that handed them to the US to start with.

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I understand why certain posters are avoiding this thread :hehe:

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Don't be surprised to see another news item unveiling soon, "Bush and gang knew 9-11 was an inside job: Ends justify the means?"

As far as this news goes, it comes as no surprise. Okay, well maybe surprising to some. :D

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Tribalists are responsible for everything… ! Come on bhai! We, the educated elite must fight this menace. They are jahil jihadists having tribalist mentality. :chai:

this thread should be merged: http://www.paklinks.com/gs/world-affairs/416199-guantanamo-prisoners-innocent-says-bush.html

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"terrorists in gitmo" would end up being same as "weapons of mass destruction in Iraq"

Call me a tribal but if my son was killed or 'detained' like this, I would be willing to torch a whole city to avenge him!

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Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson’s serious accusations against the Bush White House over Guantánamo Bay are made to support the cause of Adel Hassan Hamad, a former detainee who is now seeking compensation from the United States.
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In July 2002 Mr Hamad, now 52, who worked for a Muslim humanitarian organisation, was asleep in his flat in Peshawar when it was raided by heavily armed men. He says that he believes there was also an American with them.
To this day Mr Hamad says that he does not know why he was seized. He believes that the Pakistani military, to which he had refused to give supplies from his workplace, retaliated by telling the Americans that he was a terrorist. **

On July 19 he was taken to a jail in Islamabad and held for two days without water or food. On July 22 he was hooded and chained and sent to another Pakistani jail for six months. He was given dirty water and rotten food and lost 65lb through untreated dysentery. During this time he had no contact with his family who did not know what had happened to him. Soon after he was seized his wife gave birth to a daughter. The girl died before he ever saw her.

     In January 2003 Mr Hamad was sent to the US-controlled prison at Bagram  airforce base in Afghanistan, where he says that he was kicked, attacked  by  dogs and left naked in the freezing cold. In March 2003 he was sent to  Guantánamo, where he says that he was mistreated further. He was  released in  December 2007. It later emerged that he had been cleared for release in  November 2005.

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Pentagon Invents Taliban Atrocity in Khataba

              U.S. Special Operations Command cover-ups turn  Afghans against U.S. military and toward Taliban

read more:

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^ What does it have to do with the topic of thread?

Kill people > Blame Taliban > Kill more people/Taliban > Blame Taliban > Arrest anyone > Chain him in a cage without trial > Gitmo > this thread.

:chai:

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^ But the topic of the thread is not so generalized. It is actually very specific. It is about Gitmo prisoners.

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^

people love to generalize and you are on a pakistani forum...here you find generalization at it'S best