growing up

I found that point very interesting:

i discussed it with some friends at school few days ago (we’re all in our 20s),
one was arguing she used to be far more optimistic when she was younger, the other was saying she was more pessimistic when she was younger
and i was also saying that compare to our “young adult rationalism” i used to be a pessimistic child/teenager.

So do you feel you’ve been more often depressed/pessimistic about future during teenage years than childhood?

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absolutely..

childhood needs were simpler: feeder, filled with milk, mom's hugzies and everyone ready to pick u up ..

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^and peeing in one's clothes.

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'm very pessimistic about my future

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i agree with this point.. i used to be optomistic, then came the pessimistic stage and now its (atleast sometimes) the last stage. basically i've stop living in fairyland and start working on yr goals/dreams, taking control of my life. do i make any sense? :o

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childhood stops at 5 :konfused:??

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you do make sense :wink: thank you

i don’t know how to stop living in fairyland AND have to dream to chase at the same time. To me living in fairyland is the condition sine qua none to having dreams to work on, and keep hoping on the future.
basically i believe without fairyland future would be really pessimistic (:confused:)

for me the most important difference btw being adult or a child, is that as a child you’re denied the rights to work on your life (parents own these rights) and can just dream/depress, while as an adult (after 18) you are allowed to work on your life so it’s possible to be realistic.

that’s why i believe realism is driven by material conditions

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I am more optimistic now than before because now I am a fighter whereas before I was a poet.

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Where does awareness fit in,
I will explain tomorrow I hope :D

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If you are asking me, I would say because of my upbringing, Alhamdulilah, I was never depressed during my life. The only issue I remember which was worrying for me was pimples on my forehead during my early teens!! :D

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awareness is supposed to grow as we grow:D

but awareness can result either in optimism, either in pessimism ir in realism.

so from his quote we can find out , pessimism results from awarness.

i mean overcorwding, AIDS epidemia, birdflue, global warming, hurricanes getting more dangerous, spreading of paludism with higher temperatures and fast travel, sea level rise, desertification, amazon forest disparition, arctic ice disparition, increasing number of animal species threatened by exctinction, pollution of water and air by dangerous heavy metals and sophisticated chemical molecules which we don’t even know how they affect our health…
i mean so many concerns for future, that’s could make an aware human pessimistic about future!

But you can also be aware that wealth is allways increasing on this planet, life expectancy is getting longer and longer, there are many places where war have been unknown for decades, and the technological improvment have reduced considerably the deseases that can kill, the size of the world (to earth village:blush:) and make communication virtully possible for most of the world population, yes truly awarness of our fantatic world can make me very optimistic too:blush:

I guess realism lay somewhere in between, how much awareness do we need to get realist? isn’it’ that realism is an euphemism for wisdom:blush:?
But above all, as there is allways two sides of an argument (half empty/half full) couldn’t we just suppose pessimist AND optimist people are BOTH realistic as they are both stating, facts that are REAL but only from a different point of view:)