today once again, imran khan repeated his ghissi pitti refrain that musharraf’s policies are responsible for terrorism in pak such as the incident today where children were targetted:
“…In an interview with the BBC, he said that increasing terrorism in the country is because of the wrong policies of President Musharraf and added the problem of extremism and terrorism could be controlled only through installation of a democratic government…”
problem with imran khan’s statement is that terrorism was a serious problem even before musharraf took over and terrorism was spread by the same forces killing innocent pakistanis today. below is a headline from dawn from the week before musharraf took over:
ISLAMABAD, Oct 7: The government has laid its hands on concrete
evidence that people are being trained in Afghanistan to undertake
sectarian killings and terrorism in Pakistan.
“We have with us a solid proof that there exist training camps in
Afghanistan, which are training terrorists and sending them into
Pakistan to kill our people,” Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said.
“But we have told the Taliban government and its head Mullah Omar
that they should immediately remove these camps so that sectarian
killings and other incidents of terrorism in Pakistan could be
stopped…”
question then arises why is the great khan giving misleading statements on one of the most critical issues confronting pak?
is imran khan ignorant about nature of terrorist threat which would make imran khan an ignoramus thus a leader unfit to uphold national office? or is imran khan a closet jihadi sympathiser who does not want to see jihadis get their asses kicked which is why imran khan is bent upon undermining the army which is the only force that can target terrorists effectively?
my answer: imran khan’s association with jamat islami proves that he is a closet jihadi sympathiser. i believe jihadi supporters should be in jail. too bad pakistanis dont care which is why we wont be able to stop terrorists who targetted innocent children today. sobering thought but ignoring reality does not make it go away.
Re: great khan: ignoramus or closet jehadi sympathiser?
my answer: imran khan's association with jamat islami proves that he is a closet jihadi sympathiser.
Imran Khan may very well be a jihadi sympathizer (closet or no closet), but his "association" with Jamat Islami is not the silver bullet. Remember goons of this same party beat him and got him arrested in Punjab University. Point is, Jamat is a ghunda party whose friendship is not worth anything. Nor does sitting with Qazi Hussain prove anything. Jamat is a party who has a single-point agenda, and that agenda has been rejected by the people of Pakistan, many times over.
Re: terrorism, there is no doubt that domestic terrorism inside Pakistan has grown by leaps and bounds ever since 9/11; ostensibly due to Pakistan about face from Taliban and support for Amreeka's anti-terrorism policies. You can post as many 10 year old newspaper clippings as you want, fact is the situation has gotten from bad to worse.
Is democracy the solution to this growing problem? Probably not. It may be a start, though. Or it can get it wose. Crystal ball, anyone?
Re: great khan: ignoramus or closet jehadi sympathiser?
IK is an icon and a revolutionary, people who cant take the initiative to bring about a drastic change is society, or are afraid 2 even try call him a foolish chap!
Re: great khan: ignoramus or closet jehadi sympathiser?
IK is an icon and a revolutionary, people who cant take the initiative to bring about a drastic change is society, or are afraid 2 even try call him a foolish chap!
To bring a change you need to build institutions.....he has not been able to make a party as yet....his so called political party revolves around his personality cult....he may have revolutionary ideas.....but lacks political execution.....do you know anyone in his party by name apart from Imran>>>
Lacks tolerance....lacks clarity of mind....too many times has been back stabbed by religious groups....but continues to flirt around with them>>>
I agree with Mostar....it's highly unlikely he will be able to bring any change or difference anytime in near futre>>>>
Re: great khan: ignoramus or closet jehadi sympathiser?
I highly respect Imran as an individual, he has not sown himself to be corrupt like the usual lot. I cant say I am impressed with him as a leader, as a sports leader, okay, as a charity leader, sure, as a political leader, no. PTI is struggling because of a lack of leadership at the top.
Let say I like Imran but not PTI, teh party simply has not done much, they did not do enough to get in the national dialogue, where are the other major subject matter experts, technocrats etc who can look at issues, give opinion give a wel thought out analysis, discuss their plans and approaches.
He needs better people around him, he is one person who can nto do everything, but he needs to approach and attract the right people, why not get ppl like shahid javed burki involved, or ansar burney etc.
Re: great khan: ignoramus or closet jehadi sympathiser?
ur judging PTI which has just come to being about 10 years ago, success is measured at the polls, and PTI has only fought 2-3 elections. in the last 2-3 years PTI has taken a stand on a great deal of issues, appreciated by the people of Pakistan, i think they were going 2 do realy well in the coming elections, but not under Musharraf
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^^ as molana desiel says immi is not a national politican i agree with him. Else 10 years are alot of time for everyone. Any progress on cases against altaf hussain ? Immi is best on giving statements but nothing else...
Re: great khan: ignoramus or closet jehadi sympathiser?
ur judging PTI which has just come to being about 10 years ago, success is measured at the polls, and PTI has only fought 2-3 elections. in the last 2-3 years PTI has taken a stand on a great deal of issues, appreciated by the people of Pakistan, i think they were going 2 do realy well in the coming elections, but not under Musharraf
success is measured at the polls..sure, but that does not excuse not having teh right leadership depth and breadth, does not excuse not having a real agenda.
how were 'they' going to do well in elections, were there PTI candidates for every seat? what was their agenda? what was the plan, what were they going to offer. How is PTI diff from PPP .. both are for democracy, so what seperates them aside from what you think about the honesty of the top ppl involved, but is honesty enough? its a good building block but how is PTI going to increase manufacturing, what is their approach of controlling inflation, what are the industries that will be developed, where will the resources come from..e.g. traiined ppl ...where would universities/voc-tech institutes etc be established tgo have the trained workforce..why those locations, whats the cost, how will it be paid, where will you get staff to train ppl.
to me democracy is making an educated choice, and sloganeering is not providing enough info to make an educated choice.
lets not use all this to justify the issues that exist with PTI. This is coming from someoen who likes Imran. Imran's webmaster was here a few months ago and I asked the same questions then as well. Imran has the potential to be an excellent leader for the nation, but PTI needs to evolve. criticizing PTI should not be seen as opposing Imran, but hopefully as something to think about and make the changes needed to make the party viable. Right now its not viable, it is beginning to make some right moves but had suffered over years by incorrect approch, something even PTIs webmaster agreed.
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it would be better for imran to join pml (n) or ppp. Their will be a chance for him to become a national or party leader. But his personal ego will not let him do that ... So here we are ...
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In Pakistan no party can succeed in politics w/o military ISI support. That is why PTI hasn't made much inroad into national politics, and his party after this election will be history. In politics honesty doesn''t pay.
Re: great khan: ignoramus or closet jehadi sympathiser?
In Pakistan no party can succeed in politics w/o military ISI support. That is why PTI hasn't made much inroad into national politics, and his party after this election will be history. In politics honesty doesn''t pay.
Imran did his fair bit of sucking upto to Musharraf and the military for quite a few years, but still got nowhere.