Government to try Musharraf according to article 6

Re: Government to try Musharraf according to article 6

Explain to me how this distracts from other issues? The announcement was made two days ago yet people are still discussing terrorism, the sectarian issues, Karachi, the economy etc. The media (social and news) is still discussion various issues.

So please:
1. What are these other issues that are being side tracked?
2. And how has it side tracked from them?

Because so far all the key issues that were discussed for the past 2 months are still being discussed and this has just been added to it.

سب کو ٹانگ دو. بوٹ اور واسکٹ دونوں نے آئین توڑا ہے اپنے مفاد کے لیے.

Re: Government to try Musharraf according to article 6

This stance has led to have punished none because it leaves you no where to start from. Let us begin from climbing the first tread and than move up the ladder gradually. Punishment for one will serve as a lesson to all, hopefully.

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They are "fixing" this issue by trying him for Nov 3, 2007 actions, aren't they? :D

But what I don't get is that Musharraf was President, who has authority to declare Emergency as far as my knowledge goes, and is it really a coup by COAS Pervez Musharraf against the President Pervez Musharraf if he controls both offices?

I guess the argument might be that it was ok before in 1999, but CJ made it not ok then. A new argument to be made in a court of law in pakistan.

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What should Musharraf do?

Political leaders were beaten up, Imran Khan was pushed and shoved and his shirt ripped off before he was put in jail. News channels were blacked out in an attempt to ban talk shows, especially those hosted by Talat Hussain and Kashif Abbasi. Clerics opposing the war on terror were detained and there were crackdowns on leftist political workers. They were denied their fundamental right of freedom of speech.
These are some of the positive aspects of Pervez Musharraf’s reign of terror.
But we must remember that the former military dictator did to Pakistan’s constitution what Shahbaz Sharif did to his promises and Imran Khan did to his backbone. And the time has come for him to pay for his crimes. With the noose hanging over him for charges of murder and high treason, he has five options – the same number as the total runs scored by cricket captain Muhammad Hafeez in the last year.
Option 1: Declare another emergency
In order to correct the wrongs he has done after suspending the constitution twice before, analysts say that in the larger interest of the nation, the retired army chief may suspend the constitution once again. “He should then proceed to undo the mistakes he has made in the past,” a strategist said, “Especially the gross mistake of allowing freedom of expression.”
His opponents especially criticize him for signing a tacit deal with Washington that allowed the US to use unmanned drones to target Al Qaeda and Taliban suspects in Pakistan’s lawless tribal areas. “America is not the policemen of the world,” said a leader of the Jamaat-e-Islami. “If they are not policemen, why are they fat and attack innocent people?” asked this scribe. The JI leader threatened to quit the interview. “The deal must be cancelled to protect the lives and fundamental rights of Taliban operatives and the sovereignty of Pakistan, so that they can peacefully orchestrate plans to target the lives and fundamental rights of Pakistanis and the sovereignty of Pakistan.”
Option 2: Pay for his crimes
Justice must be served, many of Pervez Musharraf’s rivals say, and he should be made to pay for his crimes. “Our legal system is clear on this issue. If Shahrukh Jatoi and Raymond Davis had to pay before they were allowed to go scot free, Musharraf should also pay.” Sources say his lawyers are already negotiating compensations with the alleged victims in line with the Diyat law.
Option 3: Apologize
One option the former president’s aides are urging him to consider is to apologize for the wrongs he has committed. “We want him to imagine how he has damaged the basis of this society with all those news channels, caused widespread misery with mobile phone networks, and hurt the image of Pakistan by giving out so many postgraduate scholarships,” a close aide said. “He must feel sorry for what he did.”
Option 4: Get a new profile image
Media analysts say the dictator whose Facebook fans compelled him to return to Pakistan and face treason charges needs a fresh profile image.
“Facebook is like a refrigerator,” a social media expert said. “It has pictures of people you plan to write to but never find the time, it is always on, and you keep opening it every few minutes to see if there’s something interesting in it but there isn’t.”
If Musharraf does not get a fresh Facebook profile image in which he is staring into the sky like he is waiting for a plane to come and rescue him, she said, the Supreme Court may convict him and sentence him to hard labor in Farmville.
Option 5: Run away
“He is a commando,” a fellow soldier remarked when asked what options Musharraf was left with. “In a situation of conflict, when survival is nearly impossible, a commando tries the oldest trick in military history – he runs away.”
If he does decide to run away, strategists say, he will have to choose between three options:
a) The general can go wait it out in Saudi Arabia, after signing a deal and promising not to return and take part in politics for 10 years. “Such promises are not required to be kept,” one expert said, citing incidents from the past.
b) Another security analyst said he could find asylum in a number of countries. “He is most likely to get refuge in a country where public opinion is largely against Pakistan,” he said. “Pervez Musharraf will be welcomed by any people whose interests are in direct conflict with the interests of the state of Pakistan.” Based on these criteria, sources privy to his plans are saying his legal aides are considering applying for an asylum in Pakistan.
c) Even if he leaves Pakistan, the former military may face an extradition if he is convicted in the country. Speaking on the condition that we name him, a lawyer said the former military dictator could evade repatriation if he could move to a territory where the international law does not apply. The restriction limits his choices to Waziristan, which may be unsafe for him, and more likely, the Smurfs Village.

The author has a degree in Poetics of Prophetic Discourse and works as a Senior Paradigm Officer.

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^^^ Nice article to read ... Thanks.

A mirror to see into and think ... state that Pakistan is and what it is going through ... and values people of Pakistan cherish ... not thinking about Pakistan and progress of Pakistan, but most think what is their values that they could impose on Pakistan and also think that whatever is imposed or governed in Pakistan, it has to be done by person, actually the person's sect, provincial belonging, language, brotherhood (Bradari), etc ... of choice. For instance, if sect, provincial belonging, language, brotherhood, tribal links ...any of it is different than however good a person is, is unacceptable. [That seems true even for Taliban, who would like their leader from Mahsud tribe, and if the person is from other tribe or other parts of Pakistan, than it is unacceptable to many Taliban ... how sad.]. All think of 'I, Me, We, Us' and very few if any think of Pakistan and progress of Pakistan.

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What should Musharraf do?

Political leaders were beaten up, Imran Khan was pushed and shoved and his shirt ripped off before he was put in jail. News channels were blacked out in an attempt to ban talk shows, especially those hosted by Talat Hussain and Kashif Abbasi. Clerics opposing the war on terror were detained and there were crackdowns on leftist political workers. They were denied their fundamental right of freedom of speech.

These are some of the positive aspects of Pervez Musharraf’s reign of terror.

But we must remember that the former military dictator did to Pakistan’s constitution what Shahbaz Sharif did to his promises and Imran Khan did to his backbone. And the time has come for him to pay for his crimes. With the noose hanging over him for charges of murder and high treason, he has five options – the same number as the total runs scored by cricket captain Muhammad Hafeez in the last year.

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Option 1: Declare another emergency
In order to correct the wrongs he has done after suspending the constitution twice before, analysts say that in the larger interest of the nation, the retired army chief may suspend the constitution once again. “He should then proceed to undo the mistakes he has made in the past,” a strategist said, “Especially the gross mistake of allowing freedom of expression.”

His opponents especially criticize him for signing a tacit deal with Washington that allowed the US to use unmanned drones to target Al Qaeda and Taliban suspects in Pakistan’s lawless tribal areas. “America is not the policemen of the world,” said a leader of the Jamaat-e-Islami. “If they are not policemen, why are they fat and attack innocent people?” asked this scribe. The JI leader threatened to quit the interview. “The deal must be cancelled **to protect the lives and fundamental rights of Taliban operatives and the sovereignty of Pakistan, so that they can peacefully orchestrate plans to target the lives and fundamental rights of Pakistanis and the sovereignty of Pakistan.”

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**Option 2: Pay for his crimes
Justice must be served, many of Pervez Musharraf’s rivals say, and he should be made to pay for his crimes. “Our legal system is clear on this issue. If Shahrukh Jatoi and Raymond Davis had to pay before they were allowed to go scot free, Musharraf should also pay.” Sources say his lawyers are already **negotiating compensations with the alleged victims in line with the Diyat law.
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******Option 3: Apologize
One option the former **president’s aides are urging him to consider is to apologize for the wrongs he has committed
**. “We want him to imagine how **he has damaged the basis of this society with all those news channels, caused widespread misery with mobile phonenetworks, and hurt the image of Pakistan by giving out so many postgraduate scholarships,” a close aide said. “He must feel sorry for what he did.”


*********Option 4: Get a new profile image
Media analysts say the dictator whose Facebook fans compelled him to return to Pakistan and face treason charges needs a fresh profile image.
“Facebook is like a refrigerator,” a social media expert said. “It has pictures of people you plan to write to but never find the time, it is always on, and you keep opening it every few minutes to see if there’s something interesting in it but there isn’t.”
**If Musharraf does not get a fresh Facebook profile image in which he is staring into the sky like he is *
*waiting for a plane to come and rescue him****, she said, the ******Supreme Court may convict him and sentence him to hard labor in Farmville.*


************Option 5: Run away
“He is a commando,” a fellow soldier remarked when asked what options Musharraf was left with. “In a situation of conflict, when survival is nearly impossible, a commando tries the oldest trick in military history – he runs away.”
If he does decide to run away, strategists say, he will have to choose between three options:
a) **The general can go wait it out in Saudi Arabia, after signing a deal and promising not to return and take part in politics for 10 years
*. *“Such promises are not required to be kept,”****** one expert said, citing incidents from the past.
b) Another security analyst said** he could find asylum in a number of countries.********** “He is most likely to get refuge in a country where public opinion is largely against Pakistan,*****” he said. *“Pervez Musharraf will be welcomed by any people whose interests are in direct conflict with the interests of the state of Pakistan.”****** Based on these criteria****, sources privy to his plans are saying **his legal aides are considering applying for an asylum in Pakistan.
c) Even if he leaves Pakistan, the former military may face an extradition if he is convicted in the country. Speaking on the condition that we name him, a lawyer said the former military dictator could evade repatriation if he could move to a territory where the international law does not apply****. **The restriction limits his choices to Waziristan,****** which may be unsafe for him, and more likely, the Smurfs Village.

The author has a degree in Poetics of Prophetic Discourse and works as a Senior Paradigm Officer.********************************


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**Up till now ISI was behind Mush, otherwise ab tak woh jail main sarh raha hota. There is a difference, while N$ was thrown in real jail, Mush spent all the arrested time in his luxurious farm house. There should be no deal and no mercy. Mush should face treason charge and be hanged if proved guilty.

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Re: Government to try Musharraf according to article 6

just a distraction from the real issues.

i've heard one expert on Pak saying that Musharraf will leave the country in the New year...everything will die down...this exercise will be futile and will die it's natural death...

bahot se parda nashiinoN le naam aayenGe agar 12 October kaa pandora box khulaa to...agar 12 October kaa case na khulaa to 4th November kaa mo'aamila TaayeN TaayeN Fish ho jaayegaa kiuN k Army will never tolerate one of it's bosses to go on trial alone! that will be a scapegoat tactic.

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You are right ... and with Mush, all who did deal (like NRO, Saudi exile then Saudi return), and got benefits (like becoming CJ and also getting huge pay rise) ... and those who indirectly benefitted like TVanchors due to Media freedom... all should get hanged too. We should makeexample of any one who violated constitution and who benefited from dictator'sdecision, by making deals, by getting privilege positions, and by availingcreated opportunities by dictator.

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^ Baja farmaya. Pakistan mein tat-heeri amal ki ashad zaroorat hai.