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@sandhu786

I don’t keep names of brave members of Jamaat who died in the riots at the hands of Ahmadis.

You don’t because there aren’t any “brave” Jammatis who died at the hand of Ahmadis. However “brave” jammatis very proudly claim to run the 1974 anti-ahmadiyya riots that claimed many innocent Ahmadi lives; History of persecution of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community - 1971-80

And while your Jamaat Islami is still supporting murderer, rapist, traitorous Taliban, Ahmadis are dying to defend the country form them; Ahmadi Major Afzal Mehmood Shaheed Burried in Rabwah - Rabwah Times

I just know Ahmadis have not contributed much to Pakistani movement or progress of our country

Here are just a few Ahmadis;
Abdus Salam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Muhammad Zafrulla Khan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Iftikhar Janjua - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Akhtar Hussain Malik - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mirza Muzaffar Ahmad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What have Ahmadis not contributed to? Scientific Institutions, defending kashmir issue, Mangala & Tarbaila Dams…pretty much everything good that Pakistan has, Ahmadis have a hand in it and this is despite the persecution, discrimination and lack of anything close to equal opportunities to them.

In contrast pretty much every evil Pakistan has, Jammat Islami has a lot to do with it.

yet are loudmouthed racists with so much anger against muslims and our rophet(pbuh).

Prove it! Don’t make baseless claims.

It is the only religion for which holy land is our Dushman number 1 India(Qadian, Eastern Punjab). Dr. Abdus Salam, an Ahmadi had every oppurtunity to convert to Islam but he never did and instead wanted to start a science college for ONLY ahmadis- his plan was to convert muslims- thankfully his move was thwarted.

Prove it! His centre in Trieste gives a lot of fellowships for Pakistanis, who has converted as a result of that? In fact not allowing such research centres locally is Pakistan’s loss. Now Pakistanis have to go abroad to do what they could have done lcoally.

I have heard he went to Indian Punjab to visit his high-school teacher. Now, tell me who is the victim and who is the agressor, Destino Saab?

Yes, he even offered his Nobel Prize to him as Salam highly respected his teachers and considered them the reason for his success. Respect for teachers is not something you jammatis would understand.

Here is an article for you, detailing Jammat Islami and Maududi’s roles in putting Pakistan in the backward state it is in;

Maududi’s Children: How the intellectuality of Political Islam turned into the brutality of faithful fascism

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@sandhu786

I have heard he went to Indian Punjab to visit his high-school teacher. Now, tell me who is the victim and who is the agressor, Destino Saab?

You are right. Here is the incident;

Later he visited India but only to seek his primary school mathematics teacher who was still alive. Reverently Salam put his Nobel gold medal around the neck of his maths teacher.

The unsung Prof Salam

How un-islamic of Salam to do that. I mean how could he? How can a true Muslim even think of respecting his teacher? Let’s make sure it never happens again. Even more, in true Jamaati spirit let’s beat the hell out of our teachers if they refuse to give us extra marks or to let go of class for demonstration.

Thank you sandhu for showing us the light. I was actually getting impressed by Salam’s gesture for a moment but thanks to you Allah guided me.

[dhanya_podena]

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There are two separate issues,

ONE: Declaration of Ahmedis being non-muslims.
TWO: Persecution of Ahmedis.

I think the first was overdone, there was no special need for making it part of constitution, i mean do we state in our constitution that hindus are not muslims, bahais are not muslims etc. Ahmedis themselves do not consider that they and rest of muslims belong to same religion, so declaring them out of faith from rest of muslim community shud be a no brainer.

As for the TWO, its plain wrong and condemnable, and is to be noted that it was done mainly by otherwise non-political clergy aka brelvis.

[sandhu786]

@test01

You don’t because there aren’t any “brave” Jammatis who died at the hand of Ahmadis. However “brave” jammatis very proudly claim to run the 1974 anti-ahmadiyya riots that claimed many innocent Ahmadi lives; History of persecution of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community - 1971-80

And while your Jamaat Islami is still supporting murderer, rapist, traitorous Taliban, Ahmadis are dying to defend the country form them; Ahmadi Major Afzal Mehmood Shaheed Burried in Rabwah | Rabwah

Yara, except for the Jang article you posted above, most of the articles you post are from Ahmadi websites like thepersecution.org and Rabwah.net. Jamaat-e-Islami might have made some mistakes but they are at least patriotic and can do anything for Pakistan. I don’t know who this Afzal Mehmood is but there are tons of Jamaat membraan who have given life for the country and for Islam.

Here are just a few Ahmadis;
Abdus Salam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Muhammad Zafrulla Khan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Iftikhar Janjua - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Akhtar Hussain Malik - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mirza Muzaffar Ahmad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What have Ahmadis not contributed to? Scientific Institutions, defending kashmir issue, Mangala & Tarbaila Dams…pretty much everything good that Pakistan has, Ahmadis have a hand in it and this is despite the persecution, discrimination and lack of anything close to equal opportunities to them.

Yeah right! All the wikipedia pages authored and maintained by a few chosen Ahmadis who can read and write in English apart from Urdu- all pages sing praises for Ahmadis and they make sure they write “Falanah belonged to Ahmadaiyya **muslim **community”
In contrast pretty much every evil Pakistan has, Jammat Islami has a lot to do with it. If Ahmadis are so patriotic, why do they address themselves as Ahmadiyya muslims when the constitution regards them as non-muslims and even passport form says so. Try respecting constitution of my country and please address them as Ahmadiyya only. Among Pakistan’s rulers, Gen. Zia ul haq shaheed was most patriotic of all and ahmadis hate him for no reason. Even Mirza Tahir Ahmad has spoken against him time and again… why?? No true muslim can hate Zia.

Prove it! His centre in Trieste gives a lot of fellowships for Pakistanis, who has converted as a result of that? In fact not allowing such research centres locally is Pakistan’s loss. Now Pakistanis have to go abroad to do what they could have done lcoally.

Yes, he even offered his Nobel Prize to him as Salam highly respected his teachers and considered them the reason for his success. Respect for teachers is not something you jammatis would understand.

He was very pro-Indian if you know what I mean. He was a brilliant scientist, no doubt but if he was so patriotic, he could have converted to Islam long back. Not converting to Islam was his loss. Respecting a Hindu is a worst thing a muslim can do and he did that. I am glad he was not a mulsim.

Here is an article for you, detailing Jammat Islami and Maududi’s roles in putting Pakistan in the backward state it is in;

Maududi’s Children: How the intellectuality of Political Islam turned into the brutality of faithful fascism

Please don’t speak bad about Maulana Madudi- he was a great man. He had a vision for Pakistan. Please don’t quote Dawn- Dawn is controlled by Hindus and most of their articles praise India and are anit-Islamic. Even Ayaz Amir and Irfaan Hussein are bad people.

[Bigboi]

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^

and what happened to the great man and his great visions? I heard a pious person [what you claim him to be] is supported by Allah in every case! Where are his visions today?

[kakaballi]

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^ You woke up after 5 months to talk about a dead man?

[d-tox.ed]

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^chalo utha to sahi.

[EyEsOnSkY]

[quote="sandhu786, post:16, topic:203349"]

Jamaat-e-Islami might have made some mistakes .............
oh you accept it after 62 years... and I am quite sure after 62 years u change it into WE DID A LOT OF MISTAKES

Yeah right! All the wikipedia pages authored and maintained by a few chosen Ahmadis who can read and write in English apart from Urdu- all pages sing praises for Ahmadis and they make sure they write "Falanah belonged to Ahmadaiyya **muslim **community"

LOL and now we have a new SANDHUPEDIA..... registered it to with goggle bro..

No true muslim can hate Zia.

yeah very true muslims like Taliban and PARTY

[yazdi]

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