Gory tale of Indian Punjab's lost girls/female foeticide (merged)

This is a horredous side of India. Though, it is good to see more people standing upto this kind of cultural genocide.

**Gory tale of Punjab’s lost girls **

The government in India’s Punjab state is investigating the possible involvement of state officials in setting up illegal clinics and ultrasound centres accused of female foeticide. Last week, a surprise raid by police and health officials in the town of Patran in Patiala district unearthed a 10-metre (30-foot) well - located behind a private clinic - which contained the remains of at least 50 female foetuses. The discovery provoked the largest ever campaign against female foeticide across the state’s 23 districts. Punjab has the lowest sex ratio in the country and there are 776 girls for every 1,000 boys in the state up to the age of six years. All district and local officials have been instructed by the government to carry out regular surprise checks on clinics and centres offering ultrasound testing, Dr Harinder Rana, the state’s director of health services and family welfare, said. “We are very serious about sorting out this problem,” she said. The owners of Sahib Hospital in Patran were arrested last Wednesday. They have been charged on various counts under laws prohibiting pre-natal sex-determination tests and termination of pregnancy, where the unborn child is known to be a girl

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Hindu extremists must be trying to de-populate the Sikh population in order to stop the dream of a Free Khalistan coming true!

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This kind of genocide against girls happens all across India, and the victims are mainly Hindu.

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Part of the greater “treating women better than Muslims” agenda of hindus.

Apna nahi to *bollywood *ka hee khiyaal kar lo .

NOTE: No name calling! :nono3:

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How is this 'female-foeticide' related to 'depopulating' Sikhs?

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^^ is the khalistan movement dead ?

because many sikhs in toronto are very pro indian....

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AstugfurAllah This is sick.

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Happens all over the world. Some get into media, lots of incidents go unnoticed - ALL OVER THE WORLD

These are crimes that are not representative of a certain nationality, or culture or religion.

It pisses me off when ppl try to stereotype based on these incidents.

So people living in India are not human ? The mothers have no love for their kids ? Parents dont love little girls ?

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True, and its due mainly to parents wanting sons instead of daughters. Female foeticide is a big problem in China too with the govt. having implemented the one child norm.

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That's right.

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A book to read on this topic.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/explorer/0813531020/1/ref=pd_lpo_ase/104-8713647-8640760?ie=UTF8

**Death by Fire: Sati, Dowry Death, and Female Infanticide in Modern India **

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A Reuters feature on the horrific crimes against females in India.

http://in.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-09-18T050622Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-268078-1.xml

**FEATURE - Grisly find draws attention to India foetus killings **

PATTRAN, India (Reuters) - Manual labourer Gulzar Singh is haunted by the day he exhumed baby foetuses from a pit outside an abortion clinic in one of the grisliest chapters in India’s fight against female feticide. “Inside the well I found bones. Small ones. Little, little ones. There were some baby skulls too,” recalled Singh with a shudder. Singh was ordered by police in early August to dig up pits on the grounds of a private hospital in Pattran, a small town in the Punjab state, which was suspected of operating an illegal abortion clinic. It was a job that would change his life. Over the next few hours, he removed the remains of scores of unborn babies from two deep pits, an experience he says he will never forget and one which leaves him struggling for breath at night and unable to enjoy the company of friends. Singh says he removed the flesh and bones of around 300 aborted babies. The authorities say it was somewhere between 20 to 100 foetuses and they assume that all were female although gender tests results will only be ready next month. The scale of the abortions has shocked even the most hardened of observers, including Virinder Singh Mohi, a senior health official who supervised the exhumation of the foetuses. “We have been very lucky to bust this racket otherwise this so-called doctor would have continued to kill hundreds of girls,” said Mohi. The clinic was run by an untrained, unqualified retired soldier and his wife. “He used to induce abortions, put the foetus in acid and also break the bones so as to destroy the evidence,” said Mohi.

A DEADLY PREFERENCE

The incident, which officials say was India’s worst case yet uncovered of the abortion of healthy female foetuses, may be only the tip of the iceberg. According to a study published in the British medical journal, the Lancet, about 10 million female foetuses may have been aborted in India over the last 20 years. Traditionally, India’s patriarchal society has preferred boys over girls. Across its rural landscape an often-used blessing for daughter-in-laws is “May you be the mother of 100 sons”. In Punjab and the neighbouring state of Haryana, where many girls are believed to be killed in the womb or soon after birth, sex ratios have been heavily skewed. According to the 2001 census, the latest official population data, the national sex ratio was 933 girls to 1,000 boys whereas in Punjab it was 798 girls to 1,000 boys in 2001, compared to 875 in 1991. The drop in the number of girls is believed to be due to the availability of ultrasounds, allowing parents to find out their baby’s gender before birth and clearing the way for an illegal abortion, rather than infanticide after childbirth. The skewing of the populations in favour of males has meant that brides are scarce and men have to travel across the country to find a match. School classrooms are filled with boys. Girls are not popular in Punjab and Haryana – so much so that in some villages, the various words for “girls” in the local dialect also mean “enough”, “deathly”, “kill” and “too much”. For generations, men in India have been the breadwinners, considered the pride and joy of their families. Girls were seen as liabilities for whom parents had to dole out huge dowries to get them married. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, in one of his first news conferences, termed female foeticide an “unacceptable” crime. However, little has been done over the years to end the rampant violations of laws that prohibit sex-determination tests and provide tough punishment for violators. In recent months, police have raided a number of abortion clinics and closed down several of them. But campaigners say officials have to get much tougher.

GRUESOME FIND

When Gulzar Singh reached the hospital last month, hundreds of policemen and officials were swarming the grounds. Scores of journalists fought for views down a nine metre pit dug in front of the main building. Tethered to the end of a rope held by three of his friends, Singh was lowered towards the gruesome find but almost immediately shouted to be brought out. “The smell was very foul,” he said. “Exhaust fans were used to blow out the toxic gases before I went in again.” For the next several hours, Singh sent up buckets full of human remains, blood-stained gauzes and bandages, empty bottles of abortion-inducing medicines. “Going by the amount of material I sent up, at least 60 to 70 babies must have been dumped,” Singh said. Two days later another well was discovered in the hospital’s backyard in which Singh said he found “little, little” bones. “There were some skulls too. This size,” he said, creating a two-inch space between his thumb and index finger. “I was in the well from eight in the morning until six in the evening, and every two or three minutes I was sending up a bucket of filth and bones.”

SOLDIER TURNED “DOCTOR”

The clinic opened its doors in 2002, ostensibly as a maternity hospital delivering babies. Many people in the town said they had heard the couple who ran the clinic were carrying out abortions, including Puja Rani, a midwife who was once employed by the couple and is now the prosecution’s main witness in their trial. “I had told them I would only help them in deliveries,” she told Reuters in her home, where she lives in fear of reprisals. “I told them I would not help them in abortions but one night they told me to throw a female baby in the well. I refused and the next day they threw me out,” she said. The illegal hospital has been sealed and its owners arrested. They face up to 10 years in jail if convicted. Patients seeking abortions were first taken for a sex-determination test – banned in India – using ultrasound machines at two facilities in the town. If the foetus was found to be female, the woman would be taken to the private hospital where the baby was aborted for a fee ranging from 2,000-5,000 rupees, she said. After the abortion, the foetus would be dumped in the pits – at night.

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PD this isnt true, Khalistan is history nowFew Idiots like Bhindrawala cant lead the whole Sikhism. Look at the strength of Sikhs in Indian Army.

and as far as rate of gals are concern in Punjab you may look at Haryana, worst condition there. This is a problem in India and Govt is taking good steps to control all the situation and we will overcome such problem very soon. In Hindu religion we ppl believe in Goddess but when it comes to new baby ppl prefer male may be because of Dowery system.

but the rate of male / female is same in Pakistan and india.

Sex ratio: In India
at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.06 male(s)/female

Sex ratio:In Pakistan
at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.06 male(s)/female

Sex ratio: In China
at birth: 1.12 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.13 male(s)/female

Sources : https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/index.html

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*However, little has been done over the years to end the rampant violations of laws that prohibit sex-determination tests and provide tough punishment for violators. *

So much inaction when genocide of girls is going on in India.

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Aren't sex determination tests illegal in India ? Whatever happens is happening on the sly.

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In India laws are not worth the paper they are written on hence the practice continues.

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**Please read Rambo143's post number 13 **before drawing any conclusions. These guys conviniently forget to comment on such posts.
**PakistaniDragon **sahab, how does this show the idea of depopulating Sikhs? Please answer - I could not draw this conclusion.

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This shows that the problem is not as widespread as some people are trying to to project. The govt. still needs to take tough steps to tackle the isolated cases that do take place.

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How does that prove that there is no foeticide in India? or if there exists foeticide in Pakistan/China on same scale as India?

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Whatever but the results are same, Look Nobody can deny that it happens but not like every family is involved in this. Forticide in China is on quite Large scale that why they are leading in the table. Cant say anything about Pak, because i dont know the truth of that side.