good move by army in wazirstan..

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according to duniya news,pakistan army has sent its representatives to mullah nazir,haqqani etc to do dialogue on the current situation..this step has been taken in order to isolate american agent bait ullah and his animals from local people..and pave the way for deadly final assault on bait ullah..
remember tht mullah nazir and haqqani etc r one of the powerful taliban groups and they dont want to fight with army and both r considered as pro pakistani..americans have always targeted mullah nazir group which is operating against americans..where as bait ullah is american or indian supported animal who is fighting against army and training suicide bombers and americans have neva attacked on bait ullah inspite of pakistan request ..
i have said many times in this forum tht army should talk with mullah nazir etc in order to isolate bait ullah ..
i know our too much confused westernized pakistanis will not like tht..

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While divide and rule is fine as a tactic, I hope that army does not think nazir and haqqani are good guys.

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yeah yeah..when people like me used to say tht,u were critical rite...
haqqani and nazir r good guys..atleast for pakistan but not for americans..
wazirstan has its background..revenge is in their blood..they r born fighters..if army starts attacking on these guys,they will even be more dangerous for pakistan..beac they r much more ideological motivated fighters then bait ullah..hqqani and nazir have always been considered as pro pakistanis..and infact americans know tht very very well tht we r playing double game by not attacking or doing any srious attempt on these groups..and we r rightly doing so..americans attack on mullah nazir and haqqani mujahddins in order to turn them against pakistan..kill women and children and spread hatred against pak army and destabilize pakistan..our agencies and army know tht..
indians americans israel iran afgahnis russians r spending billion of dollars to destroy pakistan..but they will not be successful inshallah..

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well you are right on this issue.... Nazir and Haqqani are both known to be on ISI pay rolls, thus they never attacked Pakistan.... About Baitullah Mehsud, this remains a mystery that why US or Nato has not attacked him even though Pakistani govt provided credible information about him.

Also its out of my understanding that whenever Pakistan has shown its willingness to seal the Pakistan/Afghan border than Afghanistan and Americans have shown their discontent on the idea.... Even though both countries keep on crying that militants/terrorist are coming from accross the border.

The latest news is that Mehsud tribe has shown its interest in starting a dialogue with Pakistani govt.

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they neva attacked bait ullah beac he is american agent....terrorists have weapons tht even our army does not have..all the weapons,money ,training and uzbeks tajiks chechans arabs and afghanis r coming from afghan border..if we seal it,then americans game to destabilize pakistan will become very weak..we should talk with each and every person who is willing to talk..we should try to win people hard by stopping drone attacks and increasing development work etc..
mehsud tribe is now under the pressure of bait ullah mehsud..locals mehsud people cannot do any thing to harm bait ullah as he has thousands of animals with modern weapon..
time has come tht ulemas should be given a role to play and local malik system should be revived..

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Good news, after winning over the moderate taliban and doing away with terroists like mehsud, the army can move ahead and clean Karachi of MQM. I wonder if there are any non-criminal elements in MQM?

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Completely off-topic but.. all the non-criminal elements of MQM are already cleaned by criminals of MQM. the list is long but for the starters, Azeem Ahmed Tariq.........

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Wow, you guys really have no idea about nazir and haqqani. Here is the hero Nazira the Keerra:

The only difference between this guy and Mehsud is in tactics - he believes in priority of conquering Afghanistan and then Pakistan, Mehsud believes in conquering everyone at the same time. They are all Al qaeda pithoos.

This delusion of good taliban cannot continue for long.

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It is really a good move and appriciating one.
We the Pakistanis and as Nation the Pakistan donot need any foreingner in Pakistan who will Challenge our Government Write and Fight against us.
If Mula Nazir and Haqani are not fighting agaist Pakistan , it does not mean that they should permited to leave In pakistan as SOME WARRIR Groups , The Pro-Pakistani Warriors.

I think Pakistan Government (Millitary and Political) should dialoge with this people and Compell them to surrender and shed their weapons and LIVE in Pakistan as CIVILIAN not as WARRIORS.

But , UNFORTUNATELY we the Pakistani REGIM are not and HAVE NEVER SERIOUS IN RESOLVING THIS MATTER in a PEACFULL MANNER.

As , If ,

  1. Terrorists will Finish and No attacks will be there , then who will be helping us , who will be giving us aids, who will be giving that much attention to our PRESIDENT ?

  2. The world of Peace will ask NATO/USA to LEAVE Afganistan , which they donot want to leave in the Near Future.

NATO/USA in Afganistan are Convencing TALIBAN LEADERS To NEGOTIATE with Them , but FORBIDS PAKISTAN TO NEGOTIATE WITH PAKISTAN.
WHY...........?

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khekhashan wht is the solution in ur eyes?..just bomb each and every one?..tribel belt is not karachi or dubai...these people believe on revenge as they belief on islam..they r world most dangerous fighters and the only way to handle such people is by dialogue and affection..
our army is not insane tht they r doing dialogue with nazir..i have no hesitation in saying tht he will come forward to fight for pakistan against india..alteast seculars will not do tht..

remember wht we did to taliban and tribel belt people after 9/11..there is a feeling of revenge among people and tht should be end..and u genious people will not understand tht...

and i have seen this video quite a while ago..he is angry on pakistani govt for too much pro american atitude..
its the rite time to take our people in confidence..rest of the world may go to hell..but yeah u will not understand tht..u have no solution..just fake arguements..

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^-- Solution?
We need to start from basics! ... These jihadi's and terrorist need to understand the meaning of Jihad, difference between Suicide and Killings, the lesson of peace and love iie Islam!

They need to be answered by Islamic Scholars from all schools of thoughts, they need to sit and finalise a Fatwa against these issues and make it the Law! ...

Trust me this is very simple! Islamic shcolars need to sit with them and do 'manazira' and convince them in the light of Quran and Hadees... Once a Fatwa s issued they gotta accept it being Muslims and if they don't accept it then Pak govt is free to do anything against them , ... but they all need to sit and listen and say!

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Re: good move by army in wazirstan..

yeah, good move. Like the Americans helped the northern alliance to get Kabul and then shared power with them.

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yes and that is what makes khehkashan a true pacifist.

Shame on you, Mr Khan