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the strange thing is that now the title of this thread reminds of of 'happy endings'
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how bout charas , afeem and stuff
PS: i dont understand why something that is sin becomes acceptable. so while here u are supposed to be modest and all, over there everyone is hugh heffner?
maybe its limitations in my own thinking, but it does not make sense to me.
add pork to the list lol
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i still dont see anything in quran, maybe i have missed it, that talks about janat being like some fraternity party. hoors and booze .. well in fraternity they looked like hoors after some booze..but you know.
I mean I think of people like my Nana marhoom, probably the most religious, humble and principled person I had the opportunity to know...and I just can not think of him living in janat like some sort of rap video.
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I mean I think of people like my Nana marhoom, probably the most religious, humble and principled person I had the opportunity to know...and I just can not think of him living in janat like some sort of rap video.
Get's you thinking doesn't it... oh wait!!! Don't think!!! :D
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Jannat is not a Fraternity Party. The concept of Gunnah and Sawaab is applicable in this world, only, So the point behind comparing the sins of this world with the doings of Jannah is really useless.
And guys, I am just sharing what I heard/read/understood. Are not we all doing the same thing here
I did not invent the Jannat, I am not the makers of rules and poilicies of Jannat.
At the end, if you do not understand, just wait a little. We all get the calrifications at the end
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tariq again it may be my limitaions in thinking but I simply cant understand how whats rigjht and whats wrong based on gods word as well as moral values is all relative. how can some things that are sins are okay and other sins are not okay? or would all sins be business as usual there.
I know u dont know I am just questioning out loud.
also one question on hadeeth, so anyone who died of plague no matter how eveil or whatever, they are considered shaheed. so like I can be praying non stop all my life and some joker who has screwed ppl over and looted, killed, robbed, just dies of plague and he is a shaheed?
wait till someone claims AIDS is the new plague so everyone who died of AIDS is a shaheed.
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Pir Sahib, sometimes the best thing is to keep quiet and be patient. Allah khud hee dheerei dheerei sab baatein zahir kar dei ga, InShaAllah! Stay put my friend.
Religion is Iman-bil-ghaib, ultimately. Har cheez kee guthee naheen suljhei yahaan par.
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also one question on hadeeth, so anyone who died of plague no matter how eveil or whatever, they are considered shaheed. so like I can be praying non stop all my life and some joker who has screwed ppl over and looted, killed, robbed, just dies of plague and he is a shaheed? .
Now I am thinking loud.
One thing is for sure that they will not be the same type of Shaheed as the one who dies during Jehad
One example is that for Saheed (in Jihad) Ghusl and Namaz-e-Janaaza is not required and this was the practice of Sahaba to bury Shu'hadaa without Ghusl and Namaaz-e-Janazaa. I think that this is because Quran says that do not call them (shu'hadaa) dead, cause they are alive
We do give person a ghusl and pray his Namaaz-e-janaaza if he dies of plague.
What is the actual meaning of the Hadees, we need to check with the scholars. If the deceased (whod died of plague) raped someone or killed someone, he should be questioned for that in Qiyaamat
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Pir Sahib, sometimes the best thing is to keep quiet and be patient. Allah khud hee dheerei dheerei sab baatein zahir kar dei ga, InShaAllah! Stay put my friend.
Religion is Iman-bil-ghaib, ultimately. Har cheez kee guthee naheen suljhei yahaan par.
I agree and I dont think either of the questions I asked are such that the answer wil change my views of approach one way or the other. although by a different hadeeth I am going to janat already.
I agree, be quiet and be patient, but then my view is that in that case the approach should be different for these sites like the one you posted. they should not be so vocal on hoors and stuff since no one knows.
we can tell people to do whats right in teh light of quran, and not use ambiguous or debatable statements as some sort of basis for telling them to do what is right.
In the end, one should do what is right because its right and that is what god has asked.
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Note, the hadith is authentic by any standard. Jamei Tirmzi is one of the six authentic set of hadith compilations. It’s another thing that we don’t understand some details in this hadith and others like it. In my opinion, the proper thing to do is just listen to it and move on. Allah kei nabee :saw: jo kehtei hein sach kehtei hein, keh wo sab kuch Allah kei hukm sei kehtei hein. Have faith! That’s the most important thing.
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I agree and I dont think either of the questions I asked are such that the answer wil change my views of approach one way or the other. although by a different hadeeth I am going to janat already.
I agree, be quiet and be patient, but then my view is that in that case the approach should be different for these sites like the one you posted. they should not be so vocal on hoors and stuff since no one knows.
we can tell people to do whats right in teh light of quran, and not use ambiguous or debatable statements as some sort of basis for telling them to do what is right.
In the end, one should do what is right because its right and that is what god has asked.
peer saab y u r going descending. go acsending > What ALLAH SWT says dat right.
we have no authrity to find out wats right, or wrong. but ALLAH SWT have power to make r right, a wrong one.
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and what is the criteria of shahdat. for someone who doed due to some stomach ailment, or drowning, does he have to be a muslim?
yep. it states Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) says "meri Ummat"
n also shaheed is used by muslims.
shahdats have degree same as Iman. (jihadi keyborders might be on 3.5 or second degree status :D, well only ALLAH SWT knows the best:)).
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peer saab y u r going descending. go acsending > What ALLAH SWT says dat right.
we have no authrity to find out wats right, or wrong. but ALLAH SWT have power to make r right, a wrong one.
So much for The God saying, "مَا يُبَدَّلُ الْقَوْلُ لَدَيَّ وَمَا أَنَا بِظَلَّمٍ لِلْعَبِيدِ"
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i will appreciate if u translate it.
(for the first time in my life i m feeling bad for not taking interest in learning Arabic 
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Dear sister,
Let me try to help:
مَا يُبَدَّلُ = does not change
الْقَوْلُ = THE Word
لَدَيَّ = Before Me
وَمَا = And Not
أَنَا = I am
بِظَلَّمٍ =Unfair/Unjust
لِلْعَبِيدِ = to my subjects
Let me know if you need more information...
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yep.
i wana know wat i wrote, was wrong or right?
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yep.
i wana know wat i wrote, was wrong or right?
IMO, I think God has a set of laws and those do not change... He is the "Doer of what He HAS Willed" (fa'aal ul-lima yureed). His laws are not like mythological random thunderbolts as we are lead to believe IMO.
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But He is also Aalim-ul-Ghaib. Everything hasn't been revealed to the human race. There is an infinite mass of knowledge that is considered ghaib.
However, as far as the rules governing our lives, they are quite clear. Does the interpretation of what a 'hoor' is affect a human life in anyway?
IMO, I think God has a set of laws and those do not change... He is the "Doer of what He HAS Willed" (fa'aal ul-lima yureed). His laws are not like mythological random thunderbolts as we are lead to believe IMO.
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But He is also Aalim-ul-Ghaib. Everything hasn't been revealed to the human race. There is an infinite mass of knowledge that is considered ghaib.
AGREED!! He would not be God if He was not capable of this :) It is like one big simulation with advanced lookup to Him (speculating lol)
However, as far as the rules governing our lives, they are quite clear. Does the interpretation of what a 'hoor' is affect a human life in anyway?
None whatsoever, however it does matter from what people's expectations are... materialistic, or spiritual...
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peer saab y u r going descending. go acsending > What ALLAH SWT says dat right. we have no authrity to find out wats right, or wrong. but ALLAH SWT have power to make r right, a wrong one.
you read it incorrectly, what I am saying is that if something is right, then you do it and the focus should be on doing the right thing because its teh right thing to do and you have been commanded to do that rather than do it because somewhere something states that you get babes in teh afterlife. Know what I mean?