Goldman Sachs, Tis the $11 billion dollar bonus season

How Goldman Sachs is carving up its $11 billion money pie.

It’s like buying a gift for the guy who has everything: What can you do to impress the boss for whom you’ve already been pulling all-nighters and all-weekenders? That’s the dilemma faced by thousands of investment bankers in New York every fall, when bonus season gets under way. Starting sometime after Labor Day and ending before Christmas, everybody in the financial industry is on their best, most obsequious behavior, hoping to curry the favor of those who divvy up the spoils. And what spoils there are this year—the 2005 bonus season looks to be Wall Street’s biggest haul in five years. Last year, the New York State Comptroller’s office estimated the average bonus on Wall Street to be a clean $100,600 (or $15.9 billion split among 158,000 employees). Early estimates of the 2005 bonus pool reach as high as $19 billion.

Typically, Goldman Sachs’s announcement of its third-quarter results kicks the bonus season into high gear. Long revered for being where the serious money gets made, the firm has had a blowout year even by its own standards. Announcing a record profit in the third quarter, Goldman also noted that it had set aside $9.25 billion, almost $420,000 per employee, in compensation. When fourth-quarter results are factored in, that total could swell to an $11 billion pool, or $500,000 per employee.

Naturally, money on Wall Street is not shared equally, not even close. Most Goldman employees will receive a good deal less than half a mil, while a few will make an ungodly amount more. It’s simply a matter of how much more. Is that guy on the commodities desk who bet right every time on the price of oil worth $20 million this year—or $25 million? Maybe it’s worth taking $5 million out of the pocket of that old-school investment banker who couldn’t close that simple snack-food takeover deal. Maybe it’s time he was sent a clear signal about the weight he’s been failing to pull.

Even in the land of seven-figure incomes—in fact, especially in the land of seven-figure incomes—bonus sensitivity runs high. “Most days, I think I’m one of the most overpaid people on earth,” a former Goldman employee told me. “But other days, I feel like I’m getting shafted. Everyone at Goldman is afraid of feeling that way.” The result of extensive interviews with both current and former Goldman employees, what follows is our best guess at how, exactly, that shafting takes place. That, and the names of a few people you’ve never heard of who make more money than A-Rod.

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http://www.nymetro.com/nymetro/news/bizfinance/biz/features/15197/

Re: Goldman Sachs, Tis the $11 billion dollar bonus season

My bonus this year will probably be like A Rod...more like a shaft. We did not meet the numbers and I am fk'ed.

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"Starting sometime after Labor Day and ending before Christmas"

What's Labor day?

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First Monday in September

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What does it mean though? Is it like a special day? I have never heard of "labor day" You Americans can't just make stuff up you know, It sounds silly.

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It’s the same thing you lot celebrate on May 1st every year even if it falls on a Sunday :hehe:

We, the Americans, have much more sense. We slate our holidays on Mondays to make sure the Gregorian calendar doesn’t eat up a holiday on a Sunday.

Now why did we pick Mondays? It makes it for a nice long weekend right after a Friday, which is a pay day.

By the way, did you know according to latest surveys, Americans have most sex on Monday nights.

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The only thing that I think happens on May 1st in Britain are the "May day riots" I have never been allowed to attend so I don't know what goes on there. Are you talking about bank holidays?

I don't really care much for survey results, but I am sure other guppies might. I shall thankyou for that information on their behalf.

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Investment Banking Total Compensation ($ in thousands) based on 2001 survey.
------------------Low--------- High--------- Average
Analysts (Bachelors)
Ist year* ------$64.0 --------$92.0 ----------$78.0
2nd Year----$75.0-------- $105.0 -------- $90.0
3rd Year----$105.0-------- $150.0 ------ $127.0
Associates
Ist year
------*$175.0 -------$235.0 -------$205.0
2nd Year----$255.0------ $300.0 -------- $292.5
3rd Year----$300.0------- $450.0 ---------$375.0
4th Year----$450.0------- $670.0 ---------$560.0

And these are the bottom feeders, mind you!! Reminder: Most of you crusty sockfkers will make what a 3rd year analyst makes and call yourself wealthy. :hehe:. Remember a 3rd year analyst is only 24 yeard old
Suddenly the engineering degree doesnt sound so lucrative now, does it?

When you venture into the realm of VC and private equity, you will surely have your crusty socks knocked right off. Those people get ridiculous amount of money which beats your average Wall Street banker’s measly compensation.

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I am thinking of a career swtich.

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Having met hundreds of these little bait fish, I can assure your that living a life of virtually indentured servitude has it's compromises, not to mention shortened life span...

Never mind the permanent cramping pucker from kissing so much butt.....

Now go home and watch Nicholas Cage in "The Family Man".

Re: Goldman Sachs, Tis the $11 billion dollar bonus season

Indentured Servitude... where is my webster's?

and cramping pucker

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these ibankers also work 100-130 hrs /week.

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Ditto

11 posts and I still dunno what is labor day… Dope confused me further by posting a list of numbers that were not prices for shoes

by the way May Day is NOT for riots buts for dancing around the maypole…

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Oh I’m sorry, $11,000,000,000 didn’t tickle your fancy last year? How about $16.5 billion this year?

NEW YORK: Money is not supposed to grow on trees. Unless you happen to work at Goldman Sachs.
Scores of Goldman bankers and traders were to find out, starting Wednesday, what their bonuses will be, and chances are that they will be impressive. The bank is paying $16.5 billion in compensation this year, an average of roughly $623,418 per employee.
 
The investment bank reported earnings Tuesday that left jaws agape on Wall Street. Quarterly profit soared 93 percent. The bank earned nearly as much per share in 2006 as in the previous two years combined, both of which were also record years. Immediately after the results were released, they were labeled the best ever by an American investment bank.
 
Wealth on Wall Street is not distributed evenly, of course. Rainmakers in investment banking can expect to see $20 million to $25 million each, and traders who booked big profits will take home a chunk of those profits, as much as $50 million each, according to senior executives at leading Wall Street banks.
 
"Anyone at the bonus line at Goldman Sachs died and went to bonus heaven," said Michael Holland, chairman of Holland & Co., a New York- based investment firm. "It doesn't get any better than this."
 
The bonuses at Goldman, the leading merger adviser in the industry, and elsewhere on Wall Street (Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns report earnings Thursday, and their earnings are expected to be robust as well) are expected to give the New York area's economy a substantial boost, particularly in sales of high-end residential real estate, luxury cars and other costly goods.
"When these guys learn what their bonuses are, we are among the first people they call," said Pamela Liebman, chief executive of Corcoran Group, a residential brokerage. "They call their mothers, and then their real estate brokers."
 
Investment banking earnings are often proxies for the health of the American and global economy. And conditions have been ripe for Goldman and its competitors to mint money.
 
Stock markets have been on a tear for months, while credit markets — far bigger than the equity markets — have continued to be robust. Credit derivatives continue to grow at a geometric pace, with $27 trillion outstanding. Opportunities to invest in companies, trade securities or advise clients in markets around the world, including China, Russia and the Middle East, abound.
 
Private equity firms continue to buy larger and larger companies — witness Blackstone Group's $36 billion acquisition of Equity Office Properties Trust, the largest U.S. office-building owner and manager, a deal on which Goldman advised. And hedge funds, which account for 40 percent to 80 percent of trading in certain markets, represent significant profit-making potential for Wall Street — and, of course, for Wall Street's persistent leader.
For the year, Goldman produced record revenue of $37.7 billion and a record profit of $9.5 billion, or $19.69 per share.
In the quarter, the bank earned $3.15 billion, or $6.59 a share, on revenue of $9.41 billion. Investment banking revenue climbed 42 percent to $1.3 billion, and trading and principal investments rose 57 percent to $6.6 billion.
 
-as always, much, much, more at link-
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/13/business/goldman.php

Re: Goldman Sachs, Tis the $11 billion dollar bonus season

WOW…and I’ve just applied to GS…

…although its only for an internship at the moment. (Doubt I’ll see any of the bonus :bummer: )

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I am ready for Indentured Servitude