Godh bharai

Lilly · July 16, 2012, 8:14pm

Is it cultural , forbidden in Islam? Does it come from Hindu culture? Do people in Pakistan celebrate this tradition?

KKF · July 16, 2012, 9:28pm

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yes, it is...all unnecessary rasoomaat are NOT at all encouraged in Islam...sometimes, they are even against Islam and out right shirk or kufr...

calypsodc · July 16, 2012, 9:45pm

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Just out of curiosity, in cases like these, how would you draw a line between a cultural and irreligious practice ? I understand that you are not to pray or do anything in the name of any other God other than the one you believe in. So if it is just traditional practices, how do you all decide which is right and wrong ?

KKF · July 16, 2012, 10:05pm

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you have to have sufficient knowledge of your deen to understand what's right and what's wrong...if anything is against the teachings of Hadees N Qur'aan then it needs to be shunned without any reservations...lot of those traditions tell clearly that they are against the teachings of Islam and are as a result of Hindu influence. common sense tells a lot about those traditions being contrary to Islamic beliefs and teachings.

TLK · July 16, 2012, 10:24pm

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If a tradition is not against islamic teachings, then does it matter if it originated from an non-islamic culture?

KKF · July 16, 2012, 10:34pm

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of course NOT! it has to be against Islamic teachings.

TLK · July 16, 2012, 10:38pm

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so what is unsilamic in godh bharai? I am not too aware of that tradition.

Krypton · July 16, 2012, 10:46pm

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anything that increases well-being and happiness = unislamic for a lot of people

calypsodc · July 16, 2012, 10:50pm

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Can you please explain godh bharai . Since I am from the south, I am not very familiar with Northern practices. How does it clash with your religion ? Are prayers to other Gods involved ? If it is prayer to your God, how is it irreligious, since you will be praying to who U believe in ?

muqawwee123 · July 17, 2012, 5:12am

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KKF, how Gaud Bharai came under shirk? All I know about this rasm is that women place some fruits in the lap of would-be mother and wish good luck for the child.

the_kaur · July 17, 2012, 6:43am

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It is another grand rasm in Pundas with Yagya and all,many people come in house to give gifts though, mamas of kids are speical invitee and they gift the most:D

muqawwee123 · July 17, 2012, 6:44am

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Whats Yagya? What does putting of fruits in lap of the would-be mother implies?

the_kaur · July 17, 2012, 6:55am

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Yagya means praying with mantras sitting on the side of agni of yagyakund,altar, frutis symbolize reproduction:D

muqawwee123 · July 17, 2012, 7:53am

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But in Muslim families there is no Yagya. It seems basic concept of Gaud Bharai has been changed by Muslim converts. :)

kaka_in_usa · July 17, 2012, 7:56am

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I love the argument some people give in in pakistan that if this thing or that thing comes from hindu culture. Instead they should say that "It has not yet gone away from our original culture". nothing has come to you from hindu culture, its just that you havent forgotten it yet.

muqawwee123 · July 17, 2012, 8:06am

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This

arain_munda · July 17, 2012, 10:55am

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but no one answered of TLK whether goud bharai is non islamic.

muqawwee123 · July 17, 2012, 11:15am

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Reply is due from KKF and ninja hattori

honeybeez · July 17, 2012, 11:18am

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Just the Pundas? I have seen a whole lot of your other posts too where you dont leave a chance to mock at the pundits...I guess you need to ask yourself if thats really needed.

I've seen every Tom, Dick, and Harry having this rasam in India irrespective of their religion. The western world calls this as "Baby Shower". Its just a gathering of relatives of friends who get gifts and lots of mithai and pray for the well being of the mother and the unborn child. Flowers and fruits signify reproduction.

Now coming back to the discussion - Talking from a Hindu perspective, performing a yagya/yagna is common across Hinduism. A Pundit is called for conducting the prayer (dont tell me the other religions dont call a priest) as he is expected to know the way of conducting the prayer, proper pronounciation of the mantras, and the capability to explain the mantras and their importance. No doubt, there are some kameena priests in all religions who think more about themselves than their duty but blanket-mocking at the entire Pundit community is a real shame.

muqawwee123 · July 17, 2012, 11:23am

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honeybeez:

Just the Pundas? I have seen a whole lot of your other posts too where you dont leave a chance to mock at the pundits...I guess you need to ask yourself if thats really needed.

I've seen every Tom, Dick, and Harry having this rasam in India irrespective of their religion. The western world calls this as "Baby Shower". Its just a gathering of relatives of friends who get gifts and lots of mithai and pray for the well being of the mother and the unborn child. Flowers and fruits signify reproduction.

Now coming back to the discussion - Talking from a Hindu perspective, performing a yagya/yagna is common across Hinduism. A Pundit is called for conducting the prayer (dont tell me the other religions dont call a priest) as he is expected to know the way of conducting the prayer, proper pronounciation of the mantras, and the capability to explain the mantras and their importance. No doubt, there are some kameena priests in all religions who think more about themselves than their duty but blanket-mocking at the entire Pundit community is a real shame.

I thin the kaur's post was not mocking. She probably meant that Godh Bharai is not common in her Maika (i.e. Sikh community)