Global Competitiveness report 2015:

By the World Economic Forum places Pakistan’s at 126 out of a possible 140 countries, citing corruption and tax rates as our biggest problems. The World Bank declares our growth to be amongst the slowest in South Asia.

But lets all congratulate Kugoo Nawaz on the successfully completed metro (Even that is falling apart ha ha).

No healthcare, no education, no police force, the sinking of Railways, PIA, cricket and most industries. All the whilst ruling politicians have properties and businesses worth billions all over the world yet questioning the loyalty of people who fully support these crooks is supposedly out of order.

Great governance.

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thx for sharing the info but you seem very happy about the poor situation in which the county is....why? just because your opponents are in power? and if so, you think this is right attitude?

so as long as PTI is not in power, you will absolutely not do anything good for the country as it will improve the image of your opponents? and lets be very clear. I am asking you a question. I am not passing a judgment

so is your responsibility to do anything good for your motherland highly correlated with who is in power? please enlighten us.

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Well said :k:

To Pti, their cult leader is more important than Pakistan.

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What nonsense. Where do I seem happy? I'm merely pointing out to the new depths our beloved country is sinking to. Yet apparently people who support the current governance shouldn't be questioned. The source of my post isn't ARY/Channel 92/any journalist so the ignorant can't hide behind their usual nonsense. The simple fact is THE COUNTRY IS IN DIRE STRAITS.

Most of my posts aren't even about PTI. I've said it before, I'll say it again - Pakistan comes first. If someone does something GOOD they should be appreciated. If someone is plundering, murdering and bringing the country down to it's knees they should be criticised. People supporting them should also be criticised and should hang their heads in shame, as should the people defending these fools.

The 'question' you're asking me should be asked of most of the people who post here. Their political affiliations are so clearly based on who is a sindhi, who is a punjabi, and whatever party they've been brainwashed into/benefiting by supporting even though the harm to Pakistan has been astronomical.

I've criticised the military many times. If tomorrow it comes out Imran has been building businesses and buying properties worth BILLIONS using the taxpayers money I'll be onto him. If ANYONE is guilty of bringing damage to Pakistan they should absolutely be questioned.

Pakistan comes first. Always.

Broaden your horizons and thinking pal, seriously.

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It seems you don't even know what your typing:

**"But lets all congratulate Kugoo Nawaz on the successfully completed metro (Even that is falling apart ha ha). **"

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that is fine bro...calling everyone else nonsense and questioning everyone's loyalty who is voting for a party other than PTI is absolutely fine by your standards. and you were saying ha ha in your post, so looked like someone was happy..anyway, we have laid out our viewpoints and guppies can make up their mind...no need to go in circles.

but let me clarify something...you are giving an impression in every other post that some people have problem with you criticizing PMLN, PPP, MQM etc...no sir, no one has problem with it. you have every right to criticize these parties in a civilized way but

what you dont have right is to start questioning the loyalty of those people to pakistan who voted for PMLN, PPP, MQM etc. like i said over 70% of pakistanis voted for non-PTI parties and you can not question their loyalty or call them names or shame them. so please do not mix 2 things. I will appreciate it. similalry no one has a right to quesiton the loyalty of supporters.

thx

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People in rural areas voting for them - they simply don't know better. The parties you mention have brought the country down to its knees, to the point so many are happy to vote for them if they can get them food once a day, as is the case with PML N Chowdary's in villages. They'll get them food once a day but rob them stupid the rest of the time, depriving them of healthcare, education, proper jobs and any chance of every breaking out from the generation cycle of poverty and political views based on idolism.

The real issue is people who are educated and well off, at least with access to media - like on this forum - who are standing up for and defending these looting and traitorous parties. People who have been abroad, seen what things SHOULD BE LIKE. What the governing parties have done to this country is right in front of them. Even if you ignore the facts, figures, foreign reports, media channels - like I said before, simply GO OUT AND LOOK IN THE STREETS. I absolutely stand by what I said, the loyalty of people like this should absolutely be questioned. You are being negligent to your country if you don't raise this. No doubt it. Maybe if these sort of questions had been asked 15 or so years ago the country wouldn't be in the dire straits it is today. The simple point and right of each individual having his views not being questioned, as in the western world, simply doesn't and can't apply in Pakistan because of the nature of our political parties. Like I said in another thread, in the west political parties aren't traitorous and funded by foreign agencies, don't have political leaders who pay little to no tax despite being billionaires and having properties & businesses all over the world despite having no education.

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Quite obvious sarcasm there and the "ha ha" is laughing at their continued incompetence and the fact they can't do anything right rather than Pakistan's suffering. You just won't stop with the lies will you?

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one thing i would say....thx for commenting and expressing your viewpoint without getting emotional, calling any names or making any personal attacks. Believe me, it is much more impactful this way than getting a bit personal. Some posters always get personal and therefore no one takes them seriously anymore.

appreciate the viewpoint....you made some good points contextually although i would still not question the loyalty of folks to their own country. it is just a harsh stand, as i see it plus in villages that you are talking about, politics is all about zaat bradari, such as who is rajput, who is jatt, who is arain and who is khan etc and the most electable candidate would be the one who can bag most votes based on his own caste. So a rajput candidate will win if majority of voters are rajput in that constituency.

As a matter of factor, PTI is now massively collecting "electable" candidates in rural areas stealing them from PPP and some from PMLN. if and when those electable candidates will win from PTI platform, would you call all those PTI voters not loyal to the country as well?

not supporting the caste system by any means but laying out some actual ground realities. thx

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But it is not just rural areas, the urban areas votes along the same lines.

Also, all parties are pretty much alike when it comes to competence and their backgrounds really. Even the 'lone' party you left out of your list has old turncoats that were part of the other parties you mentioned and business kingpin (chowdries) with vested interests and I personally don't expect this report you highlighted to have been anymore different than what it is now if by some miracle they came to power instead of their old comrades in power.

To me, among the i) political lot none of them are worth glorifying as a collective, and the same goes for the ii) judiciary and iii) military despite the fact that recently all three are actually finally doing what they are supposed to be doing. Hopefully, it's up hill from here provided we let the process run its course without a decade of another dictatorship.

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Pakistanis who have migrated to Western democracies still think that electoral rigging is a joke, a trivial matter and a political tease, you think people in rural areas know what their vote means? It is only recently that your urban population has started taking keen interest in electoral process and respecting the sanctity and importance of their vote, so I really don't blame rural population for not knowing the importance of their votes, just like some so called educated folks have yet to come in terms with the damaging effect of rigging on the society.

If anyone really wants to know how rural politics work,. How the system of control, abuse, exploitation, harassment, intimidation and punishment work for any possible remote opposition/challenge to local leaders just look at the Kasur child sex abuse case.

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A party which has passed historic Whistleblower Protection Law (only third of its kind in whole of South Asia) and Conflict of Interest (Bill), with sitting minister in jail for corruption, and to be only political party to push for LG polls which goes all the way down to village council level speaks volume about their ability and willingness to be at least 'different' from others. And, no KPK is not 'same' as before.

Not everyone can be Asad Umar in PTI. How many of 'professional' 'educated' folks are willing to give up their careers, privacy, income, and comforts of certain lifestyle to practically join the dirty and ruthless business of Pakistan politics so Imran doesn't have anyone, absolutely no one from Purana Pakistan?

The whole idea of normalizing sheer incompetence of so called 'experienced' teams by suggesting that everyone is the same so live with it kind of frees the powerful from all sense of responsibility, accountability and pressure.

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At the risk of upsetting the crying wolves for praising the military, the only thing that's going in Pakistan favour is the improved security situation and reduction in terrorism, and all those little perks and benefits that naturally comes with it. Otherwise there had been no deliberate and worthwhile improvement by the government in any major sector. No major reforms, no relief, no clean up, no investment in people's development whatsoever. Even if Military is undoing its own doing, it is still the only act of redemption taking place in the country. But please for God sake, do not turn this thread into another stupid civilian vs Army whimper.

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Thanks for the advance warning. Bloody civilians will be careful.

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This is sadly true, which is why I did make a distinction between people living in rural areas and those who are educated, have been abroad and know how things SHOULD work. People of this ilk making excuses and supporting these thieves and traitors is shameful and inexcusable.

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whats the british fascination with bloody this bloody that /