Giving up bread will make you FAT

Lifestyle Health & Fitness
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Obviously, self diagnosis is not a good thing. For example, in my case testing was advised by an MD. I am also consulting three other MDs (a family doctor an Internist and an endocrinologist).

Can you answer these four questions:

  1. What is the potential risk of consuming gluten for someone having gluten intolerance/ celiac disease?

  2. What are the chances that a person suffering from celiac disease will test negative in the intestinal biopsy?

  3. What are the dangers of being on a gluten free diet for a person who doesnt have gluten intolerance/ celiac disease?

  4. What percentage of confirmed celiac disease patients are negative for HLA markers?

regards,

bob

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1- Gluten diet in celiac disease may lead to bloating (gas), diarrhea, malabsorption with fatty stools and growth retardation, anemia, fatigue, weak bones etc .

The reason that the lining of intestine becomes inflamed and the intestinal lining does not work properly to absorb or transport food items.

2- If the person has been already on gluten free diet then biopsy may be negative. One has to take gluten containing diet before biopsy.

Otherwise it will be rare not to have abnormal biopsy since it is very specific.
The sample may not be enough or correct site may net be sampled.

Biopsy may not even be needed if there is skin disease seen which is specific to celiac disease.

In medicine chances like these are never 100%.

Even a positive biopsy has to be confirmed by giving gluten free diet and then seeing if it helped the person.

3- I think it has to do with the gluten being necessary for some bacteria to flourish in intestine which are potentially good and helpful for body. The bacterial colonies in intestine are needed for maintaining health.

I am not aware of ANY real benefit of gluten restricted diet even though some harm is associated in some people. Some blame memory and brain calcification and siezures to gluten.

4- Not sure what the exact number would be just because it may vary from the studies of different samples of population studied.

For example HLA DQ2 negative people do exist and…I think while HLA typing helps but it cannot confirm the diagnosis.

These genetic studies are not so accurate in predicting the actual disease formation.

I would say this hype about gluten free diet just makes some people very rich by selling these silly diets. At some point people were crazy about ‘antioxidants’ :hehe:

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antioxidants are not a hype..they exist and have been proven scientifically..it cannot be compared to a diet..diets have always been in bcs they are thought to be quick ways to lose weight..this comparison u made makes no sense at all..

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:smack: The hype about gluten free diet and antioxidants have many similarities.

Both are based on many confusing and not proven benefits or effects and both have led people to spend money on scam products. If you have spare money, send it my way. PM me for how to transfer that money to my account anytime. :slight_smile:

Go ahead and read labels and claims of benefits on all 'over the counter medicines, supplements and dietary products without thinking. I am sure that makes sense to you. :hehe:

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antioxidants r in foods..the supplements that ur talking about contain those antioxidants extracted from them in higher conventratiuon..without thinking?..ive read millions of articles on this stuff..i know everyhting about antioxidants..thank you

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Regarding your comment, “Gluten diet in celiac disease may lead to bloating (gas), diarrhea, malabsorption with fatty stools and growth retardation, anemia, fatigue, weak bones etc .”

That sounds like some pretty serious stuff. I would not want to have chronically inflamed intestines, that cannot absorb vitamins, fats, proteins and minerals and leads to mental and phyiscal retardation, fatigue, neuropathy, increased risk of intestinal cancers etc.

In contrast you seem to be suggesting that without wheat in our diet we might inhibit the growth of certain essential bacteria in the intestines that cannot grow in people on gluten free diets. This is the first I have heard of such a thing. Please provide a link.

regards,

bob

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Try to entertain errr (sorry) enlighten me regardling this great knowledge of yours. Read my word...Hype! :)

I would suggest open a new thread on it.

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bob!

Please refer to any medical information outlet or journals about this.

You SEEM to ask question very specific as if you may have some knowledge but later asked a question which you could easily get the answer from internet...:)

Gluten does help in some ways and my friend.

Not all bacteria are harmful.

In our intestine, many bacteria help us being healthy. It is called symbiotic relationship. Meaning, these bacteris eat from our diet and in turn make good chemicals for us to keep us healthy.

I do not want to go in to specifics of it, just want to give you the idea.

Regards

Diwana

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I am waiting.

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Oh god!!!!! its not that difficult people!

  1. eliminating all carbs even fruits, will result in weight loss, which is mainly water. It will come back as soon as you begin to eat "normally." thats what the south beach diet and atkins diet is based on.

  2. Too much of anything isn't good!

  3. Best "wheat" foods are whole grains.... not white bread, bagels and muffins the size of your head, white pasta etc!

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Sara it depends on how much weight you are talking about, if someone loses 70 lbs on a low carb, all that 70lbs is not water weight, so returning to carbs they may gain some weight, but not all 70 unless they go back to bad eating habits.

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^ True...but I was referring to the pounds that are lost in the first few days/weeks on it. These carb free diets all promise that u will drop the pounds very quickly...and it may be good for a quick fix but not as a lifestyle choice...

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but even in those diets, carb elimination is in the first few weeks and then you incorporate healthy carbs back slowly, now if someone is just going to yoyo by losing the same 10 lbs of water weight every 6 months then that is a diff story.

at their core long term restricted car diets actually restrict your total calories mostly be reducing empty calories and that is why there can be long term sustained weight loss, as far as a lifestyle choice, decreasing sugars and simple carbs should not be that hard, note i said decrease not eliminate.

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^ true.

Low carb diet does work if the person maintans this habit. Initial faster loss makes the person more motivated.

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Well said..

exactly low carb diet is not the answer unless you are changing your life style forever. The best one is obviously taking macros in moderation and for future i say increase your overall muscle mass. The more muscle mass you'll have the more calories you'll burn and hence you can get away with eating more (even junk food)

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Yup ure right!

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sara nailed it... giving up carbs = short term solution and is counter productive....

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Hence it is proved: If anyone puts a dog's curled and bent tail in a straight lead pipe for 12 years.............

The tail will still be curled and bent when taken out. Some human act like that too...........:)

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And a jackass can post heaps of non-sense, and remain a jackass :hehe:

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^ I agree. Thanks for giving another example. :hehe: