Iv just read the other thread which lays into boys that hit women…i agree a man shouldnt do it…
But what a lot of females dont seem to understand is that boundary should also apply to them…a lot of girls walk around as if they own the place and flash their hands on their man as if its nothing cos they know they wont get hit back…
I know a lot of girls who have slapped or thrown things at their man…im lucky so far…and they tend to do it cos they know the man wont do anything…they bully the guy…
Now one girl in particular i remember got smacked up by her boyfriend and you could see it coming…she curses a lot…shes moody and she throws punches…she had it coming…
Im not saying its right for a man but neither is it right for a woman…
To be honest thats a double standard that works in womens favour…
If as a female you hit someone i have no sympathy for you if you get hit back…your both idiots…
And another double standard is something of a sexual nature…if a man was to grope a woman at work he would be in serious trouble…if a girl started fondling me people would laugh if i complained and it would be assumed that i should appreciate it…
Again another double standard that works in womens favour…albeit one that i dont particularly have complaints about…
again, self respect is needed. whoever has it, wont do such distasteful things.
but, for a woman to say to a man that she him, ideally should not be a matter of shame, but one of giving izzat to some one who she deems worthy of being with and taking on as her life partner.
personally, i feel that who ever sees such behavior should prevent it by denouncing it for both men and women. it is bad for the society and set the precedent of no self regard or regard for others.
hitting on anyone is bad - for women and for men. there is ethics for even approaching someone. and there are rules of boundaries and of restraint and sophistication.
besides, there are clearly better things in life to hit on :> like career, social work and personal enrichment in spirtuality and intellect.
If a woman gets physical in a malicious manner, ask her to stop. If she doesn't stop, LEAVE IMMEDIATELY and call cops. No violent crime should go unpunished.
Bas!
"now one girl in particular i remember got smacked up by her boyfriend and you could see it coming...she curses a lot...shes moody and she throws punches...she had it coming..." I cant believe you said htis!!!! u must be kidding with this whole post!!
Pakistani's according to some human righs organizations have the worst wife abuse record. okay only pakistan does - but what does that tell u off paki culture.
womn get beat up and there is never a good reason!!! unless she hits you in which case, walk away if possible or elf-defense is okay, everyone knows that.
I am not aying its okay for women to hit men!!! no one ever says that!!! but men can't hit women!!!!!!! and pplneed to be screaming that! and we need to no longer tolerate that.
i know women who think a women should just take it, that its the role of a women to bear the abuse!! NO its not! not only should women not take it i want our - paki- culture to be of a kind, where all of us men women alike look at any man who hits a women with disdain - raise our children with the belief that if u hit a oman u are less of a man - hell u are barely human! our men!!! should stand up and beat the crap out of the neighbor who hits his wife!!!
once one of our neighbors (from our old house) had sublet thier home for the summer to a young couple. i heard the guy htting the girl and the girl was screaming he was cussing really loud and he must have been throwing things at her, either that or he was throwing her around b/c something big was being banged and thrown gainst hte wall it soudned like. so i ran over.... and started ringing the bell and screaming...and saying...hellow is anyone there! i didnt even know what i was going to say when i got to rining the bell i though i'd just ask for some sugar!! or something, anyway it got quite, but i think he was hitting her again, and she was crying so i called the cops!! the girl never came out, but so long as they were my neighbors..i didnt hear a peep out of that house. i am sure he beats her still if she is with him, but he didnt when he was there, atleast not so loudly! i am sure he was scared...b/c he knew i would totally at his out if i ever saw that irl with a black eye or a bruise anywhere!!!
i am just saying when i did hat everyone was kinda like ..well maybe u should not have....but i gess its okay! this wanst a desi neighborhood!
but still i want all of us to be like that...if u hear somehting is up...u see or are awre of something like that....do something!!! and by saying that we dont mean to suggest that there are double stnadards, women should not hit men..we should not tolerate that either
During my University days, I worked summers in Niagara Falls at a gift shop. I was in a pretty busy area and there was lots of metered parking outside the store. So oneday was particularly slow and I heard some loud yelling and screaming coming from directly outside the shop. I walked over and there was a parked car with two young kids around 7 and maybe 5 sitting in the back looking really scared. Their father, who was caucasian was sitting in the front seat and he was being beaten, scratched, punched and yelled at viciously by his tiny, oriental wife. Whoever thinks Asian women are submissive are so wrong. A little crowd started building up around the car and I even asked if everything is ok. She still didn't stop. She was like possessed, like totally nuts, her eyes were zoned out. I went back in and called 911. The police arrived within minutes and the woman was literally forced out of the car. Her poor kids had to witness that. They looked so scared. Women can be crazy. She was the most violent thing I have ever seen in my life.
Saima thats disgraceful...and in that situation i would of had no issue if the man hit her back...if she wants to act like a man then let her get treated like one...
Same with the girl in my example...we used to say sometimes she will run into a guy that isnt gonna condone this...she used to slap him in front of people and shout in public...humiliation is enough to get any person upset...and yeh she got smacked up and we were all like maybe she will learn now...
What i will say though is i fully understand that this isnt always the case...men do just sometimes beat women and that for me is disgraceful and is something that needs to be sorted...
Naughty, women who act like that, in such a violent manner are not normal. I have to wonder what they experienced in their childhood. Maybe they llived in a violent home where they had a fear and hatred of their parents. So they've developed a hatred of all men and secretly want to punish them. Maybe subconsiously they want to punish themselves because they feel they don't deserve a healthy, happy relationship. If they never experience a happy, peaceful life before, they don't feel good enough to deserve one. Or am I reading too much into this?
we shud lobby in washington to get them to invade and liberate pakistan.
whatever i am totally not saying that at all!!!! but i would be blind and an idiot if i did not voice my concerns about the abuse that some women suffer in paksitan. even iin movies and on TV men hit thier wives and hten apologize and its okay!!!
here's what i say ladies buy a big bat!!! not even a joke, the idiot comes at you next time wack him hard with the bat! i am just saying...lets even the odds!!! lets see him hit you when you have the ability to hit him back!!!
PS! women hitting men a total exception to the rule!!! hardly ever!!! happens and when it does..its totally crazy - i just hope ppl are just as quick to call 911 when they see adesi women being yelled at or even being hit by her husband!
Nope, thats very wrong. There s a taboe on it , thats all. Men are supposed to be strong and invincible remember? So its not crazy or anything. It happens and it happens alot in fact. playing the victim all the time
While violence on the other side is ignored, by feminist and government, the facts remains men and children are still being abused.
Women are more violent, says study By Sophie Goodchild, Home Affairs Correspondent
12 November 2000 Bruised and battered husbands have been complaining for years and now the biggest research project of its kind has proved them right. When it comes to domestic confrontation, women are more violent than men. The study, which challenges the long-standing view that women are overwhelmingly the victims of aggression, is based on an analysis of 34,000 men and women by a British academic. Women lash out more frequently than their husbands or boyfriends, concludes John Archer, professor of psychology at the University of Central Lancashire and president of the International Society for Research on Aggression. Male violence remains a more serious phenomenon: men proved more likely than women to injure their partners. Female aggression tends to involve pushing, slapping and hurling objects. Yet men made up nearly 40 per cent of the victims in the cases that he studied – a figure much higher than previously reported. Professor Archer analyzed data from 82 US and UK studies on relationship violence, dating back to 1972. He also looked at 17 studies based on victim reports from 1,140 men and women. Speaking last night, he said that female aggression was greater in westernized women because they were "economically emancipated" and therefore not afraid of ending a relationship.
"Feminist writers say most of the acts against men are not important but the same people have used the same surveys to inflate the number of women who are attacked," he said. "In the past it would not even have been considered that women are violent. My view is that you must base social policy on the whole evidence." His views are supported by Dr Malcolm George, a lecturer in neuroscience at London University. In a paper to be published next year in the Journal of Men's Studies, Dr George will argue that men have been abused by their wives since Elizabethan times. He uses examples such as the actor John Wayne, beaten by his wife Conchita Martinez, and Humphrey Bogart battered by his wife Mayo Methot, as well as Abraham Lincoln whose wife Mary who broke his nose with a lump of wood. His research is backed up by historical records which show that men who were beaten by their wives were publicly humiliated in a ceremony called a "skimmington procession". The procession was named after the ladle used to skim milk during cheese making. Dr George has also unearthed a plaster frieze in Montacute House in Somerset that depicts a wife hitting her husband over the head followed by a "skimmington" ceremony. "It's a complex argument but we do get more women aggressing against male partners than men against female partners," said Dr George. "The view is that women are acting in self-defense but that is not true – 50 per cent of those who initiate aggression are women. This sends a dangerous message to men because we are saying they are not going to get any legal redress so their option instead is to hit back."Terrie Moffitt, professor of social behavior at the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College, London, admitted that women do engage in abusive behavior and said the Home Office should fund research into the issue in the UK. "If we ask does women's violence have consequences for their kids then the answer is 'yes'," she said. "There is also an elevated risk of children being victims of domestic violence if there is central violence between parents. However, Dr Anne Campbell, a psychologist at the University of Durham, said that women should still receive the most support because they were the greater victims of domestic violence. "The outcome of violence is that women are more damaged by it and need the bulk of resources," she said. "But women's violence has become increasingly legitimized. There is a sense now that it's OK to 'slap the *******'
playing the victim all the time