girls for house work

i am living in lahore.i saw in my houses they hv kept the younger girls for house work like cleaning of house or kitchen work. my question is anyone know the way . caz i also need a maid for my mom. i asked here for good suggestion. if anyone know plzzzz share ur views. thankx in advance.

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dont the younger girls go to school though? when do they do the cleaning etc?

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why do you need a young girl and how young?

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zaina , I am personally very much against the idea of hiring young girls rather kids as maids in Paksitan.. Its violation of the Child protection laws ... and I class it as child labour . I dont know about others ... but I would seriously advise to refrain from having a maid thats a young child.

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fortunately or un fortunately, i was expecting the same comments. i agree to u CB. i tell u i hv seen many poeple who hv kept younger bahaves so badly i can't tell u. but i only believe we all hv to answerable to ALLAH. WHAT WE DO.
i already hv kept a girl her father sid my daughter should read the HOLY QURAN. and ispecfied the time. this time how much she has work i call her and read her QURAN caz if i hv kept her then i should be all good things of her father. i never ever scold her or beat her. and more thing she never give us chance for this.
actually my mom is little bit fat and i am not home so i can't also do work. now a days when i come back at evening then i do. the little girl will work at home and also help mom.
outside of pak may not hv knowledge or agree abut it. so i just ask the pak poeple who hv knowledge then plz help me. thanx.

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zaiena, as far as I know, maids are usually hired by word of mouth...if u are in pak, have u tried asking ur neighbors/relatives?

Also, why does it have to be a young girl? why not someone older?

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I have the same question as Sara, why a young girl? the work that is being described can be done by anyone. I am trying to understand the reason for having a young girl as a servant? if your mother has health problems than someone older may be able to help her more, whether it is getting things done from outside, grocery shopping etc, or at home care or assistance. Just trying to understand the need.

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I noticed in Pakistan that young girls are preferred when it comes to full time maid. These girls are not required to do any heavy duty work but just there as a gofer, not for outside errands (maybe that too) but mainly indoor help, like taking care of baby when mom is cooking or doing some dusting around the house or serving tea when guests are there

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but if the person who needs help, needs physical assistance then an adult would be better able to do that than a young girl right?

this is completely different from my view about children as domestic workers, I am against it yet understand the ground realities of the country where there is no social safety net and these kids parents cant afford to feed them and the kids may end up begging on the streets or exploited in other ways. I do however feel that the employers have a duty to pay fair wages, have some standards for accommodation, work hours, education etc that they have to comply with. There are good employers and there are bad ones, but some general guidelines have to be adhered to.

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Well I don't know if this answer would satisfy but I knw some families who kept young girls to work for them, their reasoning was that "we treat them well, if they go to other homes, they may be treated worse." at least if they're with them, they know they can be treated decently and not abused.

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Sara, I understand that and this probably should be a whole diff thread, but when we look at what we do and the comparison is against some bad example, then even if what we are doing is not good, it will look better in comparison right?

I may be detached from reality, but I think that things like some adhered to standards of work conditions, hours/week, minimum wage, and living conditions must exist and be enforced. Plus if someone has a younger person working for them, they should provide them with the opportunity to better themselves, it could be evening vocational education, regular education, some skill other than being domestic general help to give them a better shot at life. i dunno, just thinking out loud

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I think most families hire young girls cuz they don't answer back and ask for more money, while the older ones keep asking for clothes and money. They're probably cheaper too.

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and its very difficult to get a trusted adult as they have this behaviour of cheezain gaib karna and take a notice of issue at home and watching what is where .
where as same is the problem with lill one but still u can keep them as compare to the adult who take advantage more and more.

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and its very difficult to get a trusted adult as they have this behaviour of cheezain gaib karna and take a notice of issue at home and watching what is where .
where as same is the problem with lill one but still u can keep them as compare to the adult who take advantage more and more.

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So I'm assuming from a costing point of view young girls are preferred as maids. Personally I'm against it, and I know we've gone through why it's a bad idea to have a young child rather than a mature women.

I remember my mums aunt having a 'kaam wahli massi' when I was a kid. She was a local women, a widow who worked as a massi to support her family. She didn't wish to live on handouts, and wished to work hard, hats off to her for that. She'd visit in the morning to do the chores, and then in the evening. She did the clothes washing, cooking on the tandoor etc etc. Her hours were strict, she did her job was treated well and as she was someone everyone knew it wasn't weird for anyone either.

Erm, without sounding rude you mention your mums weight issue. If this is something stopping her from doing household chores does it stop her from living a healthy lifestyle e.g. exercising? Because if it is then you'll have medical complications on your hands in a few years time so you may wish to encourage your mum to live a more active and healthy lifestyle.

My suggestion is you look for someone local who needs the work, so you know will be reliable and isn't likely to mess your family around. Depending on hours (which I suggest are also fixed to avoid issues later on) her payment should be sorted beforehand. If you plan to give her perks on Eid etc this should be made clear beforehand. Terms and conditions should all be sorted beforehand. A mature women will also provide your mum with a companion which as you get older is a great thing too.

Can noone recommend someone to you?

Just for the record, I'm outside of Pakistan however have enough knowledge on hiring on maids in Pakistan even though I don't live there/wasn't born there.