Gingerly ,Arabs Question Suicide Bombing...what u think islamically?

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so first we have to correct ourselfs and then we should say something.OK

Umm try that advice on yourself JaniUK. NO offense, but I barely understood anything you wrote - please dont write in a language you dont know very well. Unless if you’re trying to act “cool” using bad grammar and spelling

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Secondly, I am using the Quran and Sunnah, and History to support my statements.

If suicide bombing was the best option, why isn’t it working? Hmm…lets ponder that!

These suicide bombers get funded by A LOT OF MONEY provided by (surprise surprise) outsider muslims (ie. saudis, etc). If these same “muslim” financers used their money the right way, then maybe the palestinian people WOULD have the weapons to match the Israelis. Thus, suicide bombing wouldn’t even be necessary.

Ah yes, but the arabs keep swimming in their money, regardless of what goes on next door.

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Secondly, I am using the Quran and Sunnah, and History to support my statements.

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You are only using parts of the Quran and Sunnah, and History that support your claims.

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Originally posted by PyariCgudia:
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If suicide bombing was the best option, why isn't it working? Hmm...lets ponder that!

These suicide bombers get funded by A LOT OF MONEY provided by (surprise surprise) outsider muslims (ie. saudis, etc). If these same "muslim" financers used their money the right way, then maybe the palestinian people WOULD have the weapons to match the Israelis. Thus, suicide bombing wouldn't even be necessary.

Ah yes, but the arabs keep swimming in their money, regardless of what goes on next door.**
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Did anyone claim that suicide bombing is the best option?

What proof do you have to support your statement that these suicide bombers get funded by outsider Muslims?

Where are they going to spend that money? after blowing themselves apart? Hmm...lets ponder that!

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Originally posted by PyariCgudia:
*[These suicide bombers get funded by A LOT OF MONEY provided by (surprise surprise) outsider muslims (ie. saudis, etc). If these same "muslim" financers used *
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Before you spread such ** rumors and false accusations ** against the Muslims, please provide us with ** SOLID PROOF. **

Saudi Scholars have denounced Suicide Bombing. I don't understand why they would finance it then.

I don't believe Suicide Bombing is allowed in normal circumstances. But, I haven't been to Palestine, so I can't really say what its like there.

But, if some people do commit martyrdom operations with the intention of pleasing Allah (and are convinced that its right), then lets pray that Allah will forgive their sins and reward them.

Besides, we do have instances in Islamic History where the Mujahideen have gone in battlefields with ** Sure Knowledge ** that they will be slain.

Sitting behind a computer and ** ridiculing ** those who actually lay down their lives for the sake of Islam is not very honorable.

When My servants ask you concerning Me, ** I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calls on Me: ** Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way. (Holy Qur'an 2:186)

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Originally posted by PyariCgudia:
** If suicide bombing was the best option, why isn't it working? Hmm...lets ponder that!**
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So, the activities of the ** noisy, pacifist gang ** are helping to liberate Palestine ? If that was true, Palestine would have been liberated long ago.

When My servants ask you concerning Me, ** I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calls on Me: ** Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way. (Holy Qur'an 2:186)

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Originally posted by PyariCgudia:
*There is a BIG difference between THROWING a bomb, and strapping it on to yourself and taking out people around you.
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It'd be such a blessing if they had the opportunity to throw/hurl bombs at the Israelis.

But they have such ** SUFFOCATING SECURITY ** that the only way that many of these people find is to blow themselves up.

And, are you implying that these people are maniacs who have no issue or agenda? They are just desperate to blow themselves up? ** They'd love to throw bombs at them without blowing themselves up. They are not maniacs. **

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Proof that outside financers are financially supporting suicide bombers?

A leader of the Palestinian people - I dont remember his name, but he's got a mustache, and he's ALWAYS on tv - said it himself that these suicide bombers are not even financially supported by the Palestinian authorities, but by outside financers -- the money goes to groups like Hezbollah, etc, who fund the suicide bombings.

(I'll list the guy's name when I find it- but everyone who watches the news prob knows his face)

Obviously, someone has to pay for the bombs. And its pretty doubtful that Israelis are the one dishing over the money.

Suicide bombing is WRONG. Yes, they CAN THROW THE BOMB!. They'd just have to either run away or face the consequences if they get captured by the Israelis! I mean, these bombers do find their way past security!

Obviously! Otherwise, how do they get INTO Israeli cities? These bombings aren't happening in remote fields, they're happening in Israeli cities.

Just today, there was a new report that the Palestinians penetrateed into an Israeli bus dressed as Israeli officers!

So, I dont know WHAT impenetrable security you're talking about.

Just to clarify myself - I dont think violence is going to solve the issue - its creating more hatred. Israelis and Palestinians who wish for the issue to be resolved peacefully, switch their minds when someone dear to them is injured thru violence.

If violence was the key answer to issues - then you'd have seen the Rasul using violence from the beginning!

Palestinian and Israeli pride has blocked negotiations from succeeding - both sides need to begin giving a little to get some. I say - back to the negotiation table!

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Assalaam u 'Alaikum

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Originally posted by PyariCgudia:
A leader of the Palestinian people - I dont remember his name, but he's got a mustache, and he's ALWAYS on tv - said it himself that these suicide bombers are not even financially supported by the Palestinian authorities,
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C'mon that's not proof PCG. I mean, what else are those CIA agents goonna say.

baby bush claims Usama Bin Laden masterminded the most sophisticated terrorist attack in World history from his remote cave in Afghanistan. ** But he refuses to give evidence ! ** But his administration is quick to reveal the contents of ** floppy disks, hard drives, e-mail confessions, confessions of nameless, faceless defectors, "suicide-notes" ** found in their baggage that ** mysteriously got left behind,** "Arabic" flying manuals in a rented car, ** or remains of the passport of a hijacker that survived the blast that had melted the steel frame of the towers, and that too in a matter of days, although it took several weeks before they could get the GOLD out that had been buried in the debris ** and or an ** "amatuer" Video of bin Laden (in which he presumably comes after some major plastic surgery since the length of his his nose changes drastically), but then again, he undergoes intensive plastic surgery for his next video. **

So, evidence is the real thing that matters.

So, PCG, my honest advice to you is to carefully scrutinize each claim of theirs before believing them.

Wassalaam u 'Alaikum

When My servants ask you concerning Me, ** I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calls on Me: ** Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way. (Holy Qur'an 2:186)

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Originally posted by PyariCgudia:
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Just to clarify myself - I dont think violence is going to solve the issue - its creating more hatred. Israelis and Palestinians who wish for the issue to be resolved peacefully, switch their minds when someone dear to them is injured thru violence.

If violence was the key answer to issues - then you'd have seen the Rasul using violence from the beginning!

Palestinian and Israeli pride has blocked negotiations from succeeding - both sides need to begin giving a little to get some. I say - back to the negotiation table!**
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In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.

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YUSUFALI: *Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. *

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YUSUFALI: They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members." Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein.

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YUSUFALI: *And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!" *

Dear PcG, what makes you to think that violence is not going to solve this issue?

You are ignoring everything that the Israelis have been doing, and are pin-pointing towards every thing that the Palestinians do, in RETALIATION to what the Israelis do to them FIRST!

You still believe that Israel wants to solve this issue? Its pretty obvious that it doesn't, and we all know who is supporting ISRAEL FINANCIALLY.. What do you have to say to this?

You blame the "outsider Muslims" for financing the "suicide bombers" and you are **ignoring the source that finances ISRAEL! **Knowingly that it is only because of this UNJUST support that ISRAEL is able to do what it has been doing!

And now you are using parts of Sunnah to justify your thoughts?