Gilani cancels illegal allotments

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In this Jang report also it is written Rs 450 billion (450 Arab = 45000 crore) property allotted to 3281 residents of those run down areas. That comes to Rs 14 crore per property … that is like 10 to 12 kanal plot worth property in Defence housing society Karachi each of these 3281 poor residents of run down areas got allotted :).

My advice to MQM for their own good: I think that MQM should clear the matter in public and tell the Jang newspaper how stupid their reporting is. They should make fuss and should ask the newspaper to apologize in newspaper because idiots of Pakistan are as idiot as the reporter and would believe on the report without thinking :smiley:

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^^ I heard that too, i don't know the whole story but people living in those areas are not Millionares, most of them find it hard to make the both ends meet. Can anyone tell me the whole story... i.e., To whom this land actually belonged to! who are the occupants, what MQM or Previous govt. did? which the current govt. is undoing?

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Well I don’t see jang writing arab as crore, I am not sure where are you reading that crore story.

Here is the news quoted by Khaleej times, Is Kahleej Times also confusing Billion with crore? Is Khaleej times also run by “idiot Imran” or “liar Nawaz”?

Rs450b real estate scam leaves MQM red-faced
**By our correspondent **

**6 May 2008 **

KARACHI — Relations between the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) and the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) — coalition partners in the Sindh government — are likely to suffer in the wake of an inquiry ordered into what is regarded as the country’s biggest real estate scam worth Rs450 billion.

According to reports, former minister for housing Syed Safwanullah, who belonged to the MQM, allegedly issued 3,281 eligibility certificates for government properties and accommodations in Karachi estimated to be worth Rs450 billion among favoured individuals, few retired government officials and ordinary public.

When the scam first came to light MQM leaders vehemently denied any wrongdoing by the former minister and tried to hush up the matter. However, the government could not ignore the case in view of alleged massive irregularities.

The matter became such important that Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani had to intervene and announced cancellation of all allotments and ordered all those who were occupying the properties to be ejected immediately.

When the alleged fraud was unearthed the federal government officials who were responsible for the exposure were transferred and even threatened of dire consequences allegedly by those involved in the scam. The officials, however, refused to bow in the face of threats and received commendations from the government for revealing the alleged fraud.
The report compiled by the government officials claimed that allotment orders were issued during 2005-2008 ignoring all legal formalities. But the fact that shocked everyone including the present rulers was that the majority of people who were allotted these properties sold them and now no one knew their whereabouts as it is difficult to be traced.
After the initial denial of the alleged scam, the MQM, which had since then joined hands with the PPP in Sindh, has so far not made any comments on the prime minister’s action hailed by everyone.

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Half a trillion ruppees...thats certainly not possible. Those properties are not worth even a fraction of that. Anyone who is familiar with karachi can tell you that.

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Lusi: You know what? Imran supporters are excusable, as they could believe anything if told, even that world is square. That is why Imran BS all the time and his supporters think that Imran is reading holy book :p

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1 Kanal in DHA karachi is in range of Rs 20 million, so 450 billion is quite possible.

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Many 1 kanal plots in DHS Karachi phase VIII is around 10 million.

Anyhow, there are 22500 lots of twenty millions in 450 billion. :)

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Well same goes for you and it is apparent in all your posts the length you would go to support a terrorist party and terrorist leader who has blood of thousand people on his hands. :p

Anyway, can you please explain why Khaleej Times is reporting 450Billion?

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I think that they have taken the news from Jang, where Jang idiot reporter 'Rauf Klasra' works and it seems that he do not know the difference between crore and billion :D.

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hehehe…very funny but khaleej times doesn’t quote other newspapers without citing them :stuck_out_tongue:

Maybe it is time you accept it is actually billion and not crore :wink:

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Well there are 4000 quarters and each quarter wont exceed the value of 5,000,000 (five million) at the most, therefore the total value does not exceed 20,000,000 that is 20 billion rupees!

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And dividing 22500 over 3300 people comes 6.8 plots per person.

Now 20 million is just for plain land, a house might be 40 million, similarly commercial plots are worth lot more.

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Your maths is not so good, if there are 14,000 houses in DHA!

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Well, why not ask Khaleej time? Maybe they got the property surveyed themselves and gave the figure :slight_smile:

You know what? Even 450 crore is exaggerated figure, but it is possible that someone to make things look bad has taken the maximum possible value of most expensive property in those area and multiplied that by 3281 (total residences allotted).

Anyhow, you think yourself … unless you are Imran the mentally zilch, you must be having enough intelligence to think … so think, how can there be 3281 property each worth 14 crore in run dawn areas not bigger then few square miles? I am sure that even Islamabad would not have 3281 properties worth 14 crore each … and that is the average figure that comes if one divide 450 billion by 3281, that is 13.75 crore :slight_smile:

In defence phase VIII Karachi (that is almost half of DHS), you can even get one kanal plot for around 8 million, some 12 million. Now these areas we are talking about is residential lower middle class area with run down house on no more than 40 to 60 sq yard (not even middle class who can afford to mvoe out of there would like to live there).

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If you entirely wipe out the present constructions over that area and make the whole land one plot, only then it could be some 450 billion value fruad!

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And construct Askari like flats and bunglows over there. At present the area is more or less like a slump!

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For people who do not know the area, I would like to say that whenever PTV had to show lower middle class people in their dramas, they used to film over there.

Remember that famous drama - Aanch!

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I do not think that whole area could be worth 450 billion even if it was one large plot. Actually, even DHS Karachi (combined value of 38000 residential plots there) is not worth 450 billion, as one kanal plot in Phase VIII (half of defence plots) is not worth on average more than 10 million (many of them are worth 7 to 8 million).

As for these properties, they are not in DHS but in one of the most run down area, so no comparison. Even sizes of these residences are no bigger than 40 to 60 sq yards. I believe that total area (excluding those narrow lanes) of these 3281 residences could be no more than 150000 to 175000 sq yards.

I think maximum value of whole area these 3281 people got is worth at most 80 to 100 crore ... probably nil with all those tenants. If empty and in one piece, without any tenants, whole area could be worth 450 crore (at most).

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I agree.

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