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slavery was not abolished like wine was prohibited. that is true. perhaps slavery was too much inter-woven into that society. So steps were taken to gradually do away with this.

1) So much emphasis was laid on freeing slaves. Freeing slave is made one of the prime good deeds.
2) Restriction was placed that you cannot take slaves other than POWs as a result of an armed conflict.
3) Even for the POWs, two options were laid down after the war is over
a) Free them as a favor
b) Free them for ransom
So from the above, it becomes clear that NO new slaves can be taken into permanent bondage

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24:34) And those who find no means of marriage should keep themselves chaste, until Allah grants them means out of His bounty....

the above verse clearly shows that there is no room for sex out of wedlock.

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This provision of free or ransom was only for earlier conflicts like Badr ...have you read any Seerah or futuhat history that was clearly not the case

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So all the Sahaba did Zina who had sex with slave girls ?

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^ quote the names of those sahabas. they must have married those women. if sex with slave girls was valid then why Quran talked about marrying slaves. ??

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Lol you want me to list quarter of the names in Isaba.
just see hadith of abu Saeed khudri ra, Jabir b abdullah ra and buraida aslami ra in Bukhari and Muslim for starters

You can marry slaves and free women yes but there is no difference to kids from them but their legal status as captives free women is different

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^ Did you see women in marketing, begging business? some can give personal cell numbers to get the deal. that is how you have empowered women.
*chaltay chaltay aik bat *

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do you have source for his information?
if not don’t put up such stuff.

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this is questionable stuff. people overlook the holy book and look here and there to support their crooked beliefs

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aisay hi tharki molvioon ki wajah say Islam badnaam hoa hai.

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a good video describing how Islam tackled “already” existing social menace of slavery

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This is so true. Actually, many people who consider themselves enlightened and try to enlighten others are not aware of basic source i.e. Quran. On other side, religious lots faith is so fragile that it can not dare to tell people that there are thousands fabricated ahadees and you will even find some ahadees in sahah satta which contradict Quran.

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psyah bhai-- I differ on this. Employment predated Islam and slavery was quite different from what employment meant even in that time. Even there was a distinction between servants and slaves.
To equate slavery with employment is like missing the forest for the trees.

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Peace @ReadMe

You have an audience :slight_smile: - Go on … please define to me the archaic definitions of employee, servant, slave and free person and provide me texts that I can read that demonstrate that fact.

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Psyah -- Isnt that too obvious. Employment means a salary and a choice to leave the employment at self will..Also no sexual harassment.