ghosts

[mangifera_indica]

Re: ghosts

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[714]

Re: ghosts

the idea of seeing something to believe it doesn’t exactly work with Islam b/c part of the religion is believing in the unseen-Allah (SWT), the angels, the jinn…etc

you’re supposed to have faith b/c you believe in something

regardless, that’s not the topic at hand

and mangetcetc

for all of you who have posted links to articles and stuff i thank you

i’m still wondering about my question though

[714]

Re: ghosts

no more input?

[mangifera_indica]

Re: ghosts

@714

no more input?

There would’ve been some if you were in 2000 B.C

[hareem01]

Re: ghosts

@imranjaff

So Mr Anwar sahaab hve u ever seen a single jinn in ur life.If jinns are made up of fire why we cant see them(yea tu wohi baat hoye ke hum yea kahin k sooraj aaag se bana hai aur humhe daikhai nahi daita) why allah hide them if Alllah also addressing them in quran.why jinn hve more power than human beings.aur in ka kainaat main kia function hai Allah tu yea hi kah raha hai k hum nay is kainaat ko bhaq paida kia is k bawajoood aag se banaye hoye chiz humhe nazar nahi aty.Allah k qool aur fail main koi tazaad nahi agar jinn aag se banaye hai tu yea tazaad paida hoo gaya wase app ka elim sirf ek circle main ghoom raha hai app ko yea batain kahan samjh ayeen gaye is liye tu app soonaye soonaye batao per yaqeen kar laitay hai phir is ko ummaat ijma kahtay hai wahaan jawab nahi baan para tu pervaiz saahaab ko beech main laye aye kahtay hai kawa chala haas k chaal aur apni chaal bhi bhool gaya

Do you Believe in Angels?

[714]

Re: ghosts

mag that is a useless response and not at all clever

if anyone has something else sigificant to contribute to the topic i’d love to hear it

[714]

Re: ghosts

mag that is a useless response and not at all clever

if anyone has something else sigificant to contribute to the topic i’d love to hear it

[mangifera_indica]

Re: ghosts

@714

mag that is a useless response and not at all clever

if anyone has something else sigificant to contribute to the topic i’d love to hear it

There can b eNOTHING significant to a topic which is NOT significant.

714 and me:

[mangifera_indica]

Re: ghosts

@714

mag that is a useless response and not at all clever

if anyone has something else sigificant to contribute to the topic i’d love to hear it

There can b eNOTHING significant to a topic which is NOT significant.

714 and me: :maulana: :pcg:

[hareem01]

Re: ghosts

@714

as far as i understand in Islam we believe in the unseen, but not in ghosts

you always here a lot of spooky stories that have no plausible explanation...i attribute it to maybe jinns or something

but regardless they are always stories about hauntings and whatnot

has anyone ever encountered hadith or does anyone know what the islamic perspective is on stuff like this?

I've read something very interesting in Tafseer Ibn Kathir about Jinn.
It was narrated from Abd-Allaah ibn Ubayy ibn Ka'b that his father told him
that he had a vessel in which he kept dates. He used to check on it and found
that the number was decreasing. So he kept guard on it one night and saw a
beast that looked like an adolescent boy. He said: "I greeted him with salaams
and he returned my greeting, then I asked him,What are you, a jinn or a
human?' He said, A jinn.' I said to him,Show me your hand.' So he showed me
his hand, and it looked like a dog's paw with dog's fur. I said, Do all the
jinn look like this?' He said,I know no one among the jinn who is stronger
than I.' I said, What made you do what you did *?' He
said,We heard that you are a man who loves charity, and we wanted to have
some of your food.'" Ubayy asked him, "What will protect us from you?" He said,
"This aayah, Aayat al-Kursiy." Then the next day he [Ubayy] went to the Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and told him (about what had
happened) and he said, "The evil one spoke the truth."…*

[HallaGulla]

Re: ghosts

I am looking forward to shake hands with a ghost, jinn or spirits.

[hareem01]

Re: ghosts

If you don't want to believe, Don't believe.Why are you mocking?How will you feel if I start mocking fun of your religion?

[HallaGulla]

Re: ghosts

@hareem01

If you don't want to believe, Don't believe.Why are you mocking?How will you feel if I start mocking fun of your religion?

I am sorry if you felt bad with my remark but mocking a religion was not my intention :)

Well, even in Hinduism we find references to bhoot/pishach/pretatma (ghost), churails/dians (female ghosts), et al.

[seashell]

Re: ghosts

I think i know what type of response you are looking for 714(and not getting it!!)The only thing i can contribute and not really reason with is a story my uncle told me.

He was riding his bicycle one very hot summers dhupair in pakistan. He was going someplace he often went but today decided to take a different route to get to the place faster because it was boiling hot, all the while singing and humming songs. He says the route he took was very quiet, no people, no noise but he put that down to it being dhupair and people resting at home, but as he went further and further the whole thing started to feel eerie and he started to get goose bumps on his body, he felt scared for no apparent reason. As he cycled further he reached a swamp like place where he says he saw several women standing around and filling dirty water in their ghara'a, he found that strange so he watched them from far and as he cycled closer he realised the women were extremely beautiful and very heavily dressed with expensive clothes and jewellry and as he got very close he realised something that scared the living day lights out of him...their feet were facing the other way around, they were backwards. At that point he realised these women were not human. So he looked straight ahead started reciting every dua, very surah he evr knew and cycled like he had never cycled before and as he peddled away the women startd calling out his name from behind, they were shouting at him to look back but he didnt stop until he was amongst people again. Its been over 20 years now and he still remembers this incident with fear. I dont know the stand on "Dains" or "churails" in islam but he swears he saw them that one hot summers afternoon he will never forget.

[HallaGulla]

Re: ghosts

@seashell

I think i know what type of response you are looking for 714(and not getting it!!)The only thing i can contribute and not really reason with is a story my uncle told me.

He was riding his bicycle one very hot summers dhupair in pakistan. He was going someplace he often went but today decided to take a different route to get to the place faster because it was boiling hot, all the while singing and humming songs. He says the route he took was very quiet, no people, no noise but he put that down to it being dhupair and people resting at home, but as he went further and further the whole thing started to feel eerie and he started to get goose bumps on his body, he felt scared for no apparent reason. As he cycled further he reached a swamp like place where he says he saw several women standing around and filling dirty water in their ghara'a, he found that strange so he watched them from far and as he cycled closer he realised the women were extremely beautiful and very heavily dressed with expensive clothes and jewellry and as he got very close he realised something that scared the living day lights out of him...their feet were facing the other way around, they were backwards. At that point he realised these women were not human. So he looked straight ahead started reciting every dua, very surah he evr knew and cycled like he had never cycled before and as he peddled away the women startd calling out his name from behind, they were shouting at him to look back but he didnt stop until he was amongst people again. Its been over 20 years now and he still remembers this incident with fear. I dont know the stand on "Dains" or "churails" in islam but he swears he saw them that one hot summers afternoon he will never forget.

WOW, I remember exactly the same stories from my childhood, when we were discouraged to go out when it was scorching bright sun. Elderly people used to say that beautiful women with feet other way around roam around this time of the day. Don't go closer to Banyan or pipal trees during that time et al....
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*Well I don't know how true it was but we were always instructed to stay indoors during afternoons... *

[mangifera_indica]

Re: ghosts

@hareem01

If you don't want to believe, Don't believe.Why are you mocking?How will you feel if I start mocking fun of your religion?

The concept( the very phrase makes me laugh) of ghosts is prtesent in every religion.......

[mangifera_indica]

Re: ghosts

@seashell

I think i know what type of response you are looking for 714(and not getting it!!)The only thing i can contribute and not really reason with is a story my uncle told me.

He was riding his bicycle one very hot summers dhupair in pakistan. He was going someplace he often went but today decided to take a different route to get to the place faster because it was boiling hot, all the while singing and humming songs. He says the route he took was very quiet, no people, no noise but he put that down to it being dhupair and people resting at home, but as he went further and further the whole thing started to feel eerie and he started to get goose bumps on his body, he felt scared for no apparent reason. As he cycled further he reached a swamp like place where he says he saw several women standing around and filling dirty water in their ghara'a, he found that strange so he watched them from far and as he cycled closer he realised the women were extremely beautiful and very heavily dressed with expensive clothes and jewellry and as he got very close he realised something that scared the living day lights out of him...their feet were facing the other way around, they were backwards. At that point he realised these women were not human. So he looked straight ahead started reciting every dua, very surah he evr knew and cycled like he had never cycled before and as he peddled away the women startd calling out his name from behind, they were shouting at him to look back but he didnt stop until he was amongst people again. Its been over 20 years now and he still remembers this incident with fear. I dont know the stand on "Dains" or "churails" in islam but he swears he saw them that one hot summers afternoon he will never forget.

ah, Interesting....
Well it couldn't have been a mirage.....

[HallaGulla]

Re: ghosts

ah, Interesting.... Well it couldn't have been a mirage.....

Yes it is..