Ghira - self respect

A man named Sad (r) said "If I saw a man with my wife, I would strike him (behead him) with the blade of my sword." This news reached Prophet (S) who then said "You people are astonished at Sad’s Ghira (self respect).
By Allah, I have more Ghira (Self respect and sense of decent Honor) than he,
AND ALLAH HAS MORE Ghira THAN I.
And because of Allah’s Ghira, He has made UNLAWFUL shameful deeds and sins (illegal sexual intercourse etc.) Unlawful whether they are done in open or in secret.
And there is none who likes that the people should repent to Him and beg His pardon than Allah, and for this reason He sent the warners and the givers of good news (Prophets).
And there is none who likes to be praised more than Allah does, and for this reason, Allah promised to grant Paradise (to the doers of good)."
Abdul Malik (r) said, “No person has more Ghira than Allah.”

can someone plz explain how are Allah’s Ghira and the shameful deeds connected here?

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ok i know its a little hard but come on now... anyone... anything... :@:

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One of the meanings of Ghira- Ghairat is: A feeling of fury with great anger when one's honour and prestige is challenged.

Naturally, a man, who didn't have existence, Allah gave him existence, made him the best of all creations. Gave him eyes to watch, ears to hear, tongue to speak ...... infinite blessings....(and which ones of the blessings of Allah (swt) that one will deny).. and yet he has the guts to disobey and challenge the honor and prestige of the ALMIGHTY. The challange to ones Honor is MORE when a disobedience is done intentionally, and it becomes EVEN MORE when one at the time of sinning is WELL AWARE of the fact that ALLAH is watching him. Even an ordinary king doesn't tolerate his disobedience in front of himself, and we are talking of the AL-MIGHTIEST of ALL. This Ghira of the Almighty is specifically related more to shameful deeds like illegal sexual intercourse etc because this sin also involves violation of the basic HUMAN's rights and challenging of the honor, dignity and self respect of many people related to the person with whom one illegally gets involved with...and its detrimental effects lasts for a life time on the whole family of the sinner and the whole family of the one with whom he is sinning...

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^ true... it has its social implications but i was thinking more on the... relation between man and Allah... lines

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Ghaira = Ethics (the best available interpretation)

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I forgot to mention that the intensity of a challenge increases even more and causes even more anger to the one who is challenged when the person who is challenging (through his actions) knows how worthless, non-existent and disgraced he is in front of the ONE whom he is challenging.

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^ makes sense yes but why refer to the 'illegal intercourse' as the action specifically. What is about this particular sin that it is referred directly to Allah's Ghaira? Does it have to do with the sacredness of the body or what...?

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It is about protecting what belongs to you ... and desire for purity without recourse for penalty or judgement (it is the worth in the principle)

In this manner we have dignity and feel betrayed if people don't respect that dignity

We have a sense of our worth, more than us RasoolAllah (SAW) has a sense of our worth for us, that is why he (SAW) has been merciful to us, and Allah (SWT) has an even greater sense of worth for us and that is why He dislikes us worshipping things below us and earning for ourselves sin - He has made us "best" we should act that way.

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والغَيْرة، بالفتح، المصدر من قولك غار الرجل على أَهْلِه. قال ابن سيده: وغار الرجل على امرأَته، والمرأَة على بَعْلها تَغار غَيْرة وغَيْراً وغاراً وغِياراً؛ قال أَبو ذؤيب يصِف قُدوراً: لَهُنَّ نَشِيجٌ بالنَّشِيلِ كأَنَّها ضَرائِرُ حِرْمِيٍّ، تَفاحَشَ غارُها وقال الأَعشى: لاحَهُ الصَّيْفُ والغِيارُ وإِشْفا قٌ على سَقْبَةٍ، كقَوْسِ الضَّالِ ورجل غَيْران، والجمع غَيارَى وغُيَارَى، وغَيُور، والجمع غُيُرٌ، صحَّت الياء لخفّتها عليهم وأَنهم لا يستثقلون الضمة عليها استثقالهم لها على الواو، ومن قال رُسْل قال غُيْرٌ، وامرأَة غَيْرَى وغَيُور، والجمع كالجمع؛ الجوهري: امرأَة غَيُور ونسوة غُيُرٌ وامرأَة غَيْرَى ونسوة غَيارَى؛ وفي حديث أُم سلمة، رضي الله عنها: إِنَّ لي بِنْتاً وأَنا غَيُور، هو فَعُول من الغَيْرة وهي الحَمِيّة والأَنَفَة. يقال: رجل غَيور وامرأَة غَيُور بلا هاء لأَنّ فَعُلولاً يشترِك فيه الذكر والأُنثى.
وفي رواية: امرأَة غَيْرَى؛ هي فَعْلى من الغَيْرة.
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Peace,

The above is from an online Arabic lexicon

http://www.baheth.info/index.jsp

It’s confusing … but from what Submission 2 Peace and psyah wrote, the meaning is much more clearer.

Peace again,
Aslem, taslam
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