getting married to a pakistani- need help w wedding ceremony re: islamic wedding

hi all! what a cool site you have here :slight_smile:

i need some help please! i am a non-paki who is marrying a pakistani guy, and i need help on the marriage ceremony from a religious perspective. how is the nikah ceremony carried out? are there certain prayers or duas or Koranic verses that the bride must memorize for the ceremony? also, just wondering why you put your hands up like shielding your face for a dua and how do you know when to do that and when to put your hands down?

please help me i don’t want to look like a fool at my wedding!

thanks :slight_smile:

Re: getting married to a pakistani- need help w wedding ceremony re: islamic wedding

nikah: when legally, in islam, a woman takes a man as her husband and a man takes a woman as his wife; in other words contract of marriage between a man and a woman

islamically nikah is carried out in this manner:
- the priest (or shiekh in arabic, and molvi in urdu) asks the woman "do u take (the guy's name) as your husband in nikah (contract of marriage)?"
- woman replies with "i do" if she wishes to marry that man
- then same is asked to the man "do u take (the girl's name) as your wife in nikah (contract of marriage)?"
- man replies with "i do" if he wishes to marry that woman
- nikah has taken place then, the man and woman are husband and wife for each other from then
- the priest and members of family pray to God to give the couple happy blessed life (this is when the putting up of hands happens, though its not a must for the bride to do it) and sayAmeen (or Amen in english)

the putting up of hands while prayer symbolizes praising God while asking for what you want, that without doubt He alone is the Giver of whatever you ask Him to give you and that He is Greatest and He is the listener of your prayer

Re: getting married to a pakistani- need help w wedding ceremony re: islamic wedding

Watch a couple of youtube videos to get the idea.

Re: getting married to a pakistani- need help w wedding ceremony re: islamic wedding

just as you see poor people/beggars cup their hands pleading for help...that's what the cupping of the hands symbolises , so when making the prayer you beg God for the blessing for your marriage- so with that in mind that'll make things easier to understand.

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Also,

It is Quran verses or verses from Quran… Not Koranic verses

I believe this basic info every non muslim shud know before marrying a muslim…

:chai:

Re: getting married to a pakistani- need help w wedding ceremony re: islamic wedding

and yes the putting up of hands during prayer also symbolizes pleading or desperation while you ask God for what you want

Re: getting married to a pakistani- need help w wedding ceremony re: islamic wedding

You don't need to memorize any verses from the Quran for the wedding. People raise their hands in prayer when they are asking God for something. When the prayer ends people put the hands down.

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Wiki always works too…

When one raises their hand in prayer it is called a ‘dua.’

From an Islamic (religious) perspective actual marriage contract is called the ‘nikah’

The whole process outlined for you from a Pakistani (cultural) perspective

And regardless if you are wanting to convert or not, to learn more about your husband’s religion and particular details of an Islamic wedding, do check out online sites and you tube videos for ‘new muslims’ or ‘muslim converts.’

There a so many resources online that come up with any basic google search, but sometimes looking up the women’s chapter of your local Masjid (mosque) can be helpful if you are able to connect with the right people.

Also, its important to realize that whilst the basic tenants of Islam are the foundations of all Muslim practise, including the marriage ceremony, there are bound to be CULTURAL variations in the form of traditions and rituals particular to that culture. Whilst strict Muslims abstain from cultural interpretations of the Quran ect., culture makes an impact on our daily lives. For example, there might be slight variations in an Pakistani Islamic wedding ceremony and an Indian Muslim one, but there might be a lot more differences between a Chinese Muslim wedding and a Nigerian Muslim one.

Finally, every family has its own particular balance between RELIGION (Islam) and CULTURE (Pakistani), so openly communicate with your in-laws to get a feel for how they go about things as Muslim Pakistanis living in X, Y, or Z.

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so i am assuming your wedding will take place in pakistan. ok my answers are according to how i have seen it happening in pakistan.

how is the nikah ceremony carried out?
nikah is the contract of marriage between husband and wife. usually boys and girl's nikkah is done in separate rooms. like first the moulvi (priest) goes to the girl and then to the boy to ask them if they accept that person as their spouse.

are there certain prayers or duas or Koranic verses that the bride must memorize for the ceremony?

**no neither the boy nor the girl needs to remember any quranic verses..the moulvi (preist) will tell you to repeat they quranic verses he will say
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also, just wondering why you put your hands up like shielding your face for a dua and how do you know when to do that and when to put your hands down?**

putting up ur hands for dua is just one of the ways...for dua you dont have to put both your hands infront of your face..its just that different people do it differently.....usually when the nikkah is done the moulvi says "please raise your hands for the dua"..you will know it.

it depends how u are doing nikkah. some just to do at home with immediate relatives. some do it on the day of reception. if its on teh day of reception then what happens is that when majority of the guests have arrived the moulvi does the nikkah ceremony. after the nikkah has taken place for both girl and guy the girl comes outside in the hall and sits with the groom and usually everyone is served with small sweet packets..just to show the happiness that they are islamically married....and then the dinner is served.

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Maybe you should also ask your husband to be for information. Im sure he would be more than happy to help right? That way you could also get an idea of his certain families traditions? Congratulations on the wedding!

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thank you all for the responses! i just wanted to make sure i can learn any arabic i need to know ahead of time

blessed2006- which verses would the imam say for me to repeat? i feel that it would be difficult to repeat the arabic just from hearing someone say it and i'd like to see the transliteration beforehand- although, i've been to a few pakistani weddings and i don't recall the bride or groom repeating anything after the imam- is that always done?

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well ... U dont have to worry about dua or verses. Molvi/ imam sab wont ask u to repeat any quranic verses. He may asks u to repeat kalima after him (just to make sure u r muslim or some other wiered reason, I never saw them doing that with bride, mostly they do it with groom)
he will come to u with 2 witnesses (one from your side and one from groom side) to ask your consent. he will probably ask u in urdu or if he is educated anough in english as well.
the bride side arranges the Imam sab so anyone from your side with u can talk to him ( and u can ask watever u want before hand)
so basically he wont ask u to repeat any quarnic verses (i never saw this happening) he will just ask your consent.
and for dua thing u just need to lift your hands and then when everyone finishes u can put them on your face by saying "aameen"
by the way I am sure u know "kalima" atleast being a muslim.
if anything else u want to ask. do lemme know

Re: getting married to a pakistani- need help w wedding ceremony re: islamic wedding

Hello!

I just wanted to say that I don’t know if you’re getting married in Pakistan but if you are, please ensure that the Nikah [Marriage Contract Form] is in English so that you can read and understand it. This is very important, you wouldn’t sign any other contract in your life without reading it. You can read a translated version of a Nikah Form over here: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/38286694/Nikkah-Nama-Form-Tamplates

Also, wanted to clarify some points in the Nikah form:

Number 5 sounds very rude. But they don’t actually ask you if you’re a virgin. They just want to ascertain your marital status: a better translation would be “never married, widow or divorced”.

Number 7 is not a legal attorney but someone called a “Wali” This is basically a Muslim Adult Male who acts like an intercessor. So for example, instead of the Imam asking you for your agreement to the wedding, the Wali will ask you on his behalf and then take your answer to him on your behalf. The Wali will ask you three times if you agree to the marriage and make you sign on three different copies of the Nikah Nama. One for the government records, one for the Imam and one for the married couple.

Number 8 - Generally, the signing of the Nikah contract only needs the Bride, Groom, Imam and 2 witnesses [Number 11] but IF you choose to have a Wali or intercessor, there will need to be two more witnesses to vouch for the Wali’s integrity in carrying out his duty.

Number 13 - Mahr is an Islamic tradition that has been carried down from the time of the Prophet (PBUH). It is basically a gift from the groom to the bride and is unequivocally hers and not theirs to share unless she chooses so. The Mahr can basically be anything that the married couple agree on. So for example, a silver ring or a car or a house or a predetermined cash value. Do think about what you want carefully and discuss this with your husband. And make sure that you make the decision about what you want as your Mahr, it is your right to agree to the value, not your family’s.

Number 14 and Number 15 - Now for example, your husband has just graduated and started a new job so he is probably not earning a lot. So in this case, he doesn’t need to pay all or part of the Mahr due to you upfront. He can give you a little or none and promise to pay the remainder later. By mentioning this in the Nikah Nama, they are just formalising this gift that Allah has arranged for you.

Number 17 - Again, a part of the Nikah form that is often left blank. Over here you can make any conditions and if he agrees to it and signs, then they become legally binding. So, for example, you may write that the bridegroom is not allowed to take a second wife without informing you and asking your permission beforehand. InshaAllah, the situation will never arise, but if it does, then you have a legal right to challenge him in court because he went against the signed contract.

Number 18 - This is also something you must discuss with your husband-to-be before. Will you want the right to divorce him if he marries another woman, starts drinking, et cetera.

Number 19 - The husband has more right to divorce than the woman in Islam so you can mention any conditions against his right to divorce over here.

Number 20 - Over here you can mention for example that if you’re not working and running the house [or if you’re working and running the house], your husband has to support you for the comfort you provide. So you can specify, that you expect 5% of his salary as your personal allowance. Always better to specify a percentage than a fixed amount.

I’m sorry. I know I come across as mercenary in this post. But it is important that in the cultural celebrations of the marriage, the women do NOT forget the legal rights that Islam gives them to protect them.