Getting bald through Haj

Hey guys,
I have a little trouble making a decision about Haj. Its kind of embarrasing to say this, but I really don’t want my long hair gone as it took forever to grow it this long and I feel I look better with it then with short hair. Is this really necassary and loosing my hair is a something I have to do to fulfill my obligation.

Also the reason why I have not considered this for old age is because.. of too many personal reasons.

Regards

Bishounen Knight Ali

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Haj is exercise of "sacrifice" including other values.

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balon ko pyar kero...
hajj to tata ker do...

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According to my knowledge the Prophet (PBUH) shave his head as did some of his companions while others just cut it short. Can someone please confirm it?

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you dont even have to cut it short, many people just cut some hair, a snip here a snip there. \
you dont just see guys with shaved heads walking around after Hajj.

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I know someone who went last year had same issue. The problem was, as soon as he came back from Hajj he was suppose to attend big meetings where who's who were going to attend. It's truly a tough decision for men who are in professionals that require them to be dressed and presented at certain level. Shaving off hair was a not a good option because you are - how you dress, and he felt most comfortable with his regular look.

So fast forward - when he went to hajj, he requested that only little hair be cut off if that was an option.

So the option he was given, was to pay, I think about $300 and sacrifice an animal. So it cost him $$ but he was able to attend hajj, as well as comfortably attend the meeting soon after.

Hope this helps.

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look,I never had to pay some sort of tind ransom for Hajj, unless things have changed.
sacrificing ..i.e. qurbani you hafta do anyways, whether you go for hajj or not.

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^ I think you are allowed to do that, for instance if you are sick and cannot make it to the place where you're supposed to throw kankariyaan, you can get away by offering a sacrifice. Again, I am no expert, merely stating what I might have heard or read from others.

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Thank God women don't have to go bald!!!

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All I have read is same as poster # 4 and # 5 said above.

i lived in ksa, went for Haj multiple times, and saw this in practice personally.

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its better to shave but trimming is definitely an option....
and there wud be nothing wrong with your hajj if you only trimmed the hair....

but do not that taking just one lock of hair and cutting of a bit of hair is NOT ALLOWED....
u have to trim all the hair equally no matter what length u trim them....

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but at hajj time you dont have people sitting there ready to give you a clooney cut, you get hair snipped from diff parts of your head and go get a haircut so they are teh same length or so later. again that may have changed now but in the past that is how it was done and there was no issues with it.

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Reading a variety of Hajj guidance manuals, to summarise:

Men MUST shave or closely clip their hair, it is a must, except if u have some medical reason NOT to. Not sure, u may have to pay dam for it.

U get reward if u crop your hair, and 3 times the reward if u shave the hair.

U can probably get away with clipping the hair very close, and if u time it right, by the time u get back to work u should have about a week or 2's hair growth so it won't look bad.

I was a bit worried about how hubby would look with shaved head, but after a few days it looked really cool! I want him to keep it short now.

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U get reward if u crop your hair, and 3 times the reward if u shave the hair.

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This "reward" idealogy is full of flaws. There is no such concept as a 5 star heaven or 2 star heaven. Heaven is heaven, and that is only if such a place really exists.

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How do u know there r no grades of heaven (or hell for that matter)?

Being a Muslim i believe there r different heavens, Jannat al Firdaus being the highest and best.

Anyway thats beside the point, to get to heaven u need a lot of good deeds, usually!

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Rupay halwa I am not talking about manuals I am talking about personal observation, there was no close cropping. This was not observed as an exception but for many people, on multiple occassions, at a time when the muttawa grip was strong enough that if you were not doing what was acceptable, they would flog ya in public

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How do u know there r no grades of heaven (or hell for that matter)?

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Because the whole thing sounds rediculous. Just like the splitting of Islam in to sectarian branches. Recently made modifications maybe? no?

Besides I don't think living in heaven is going to be like living as a rich man in earth.

feel free to prove me wrong though.

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Being a Muslim i believe there r different heavens, Jannat al Firdaus being the highest and best.
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Either this is the first time I have heard "Jannat al Firdaus" or I have misinterpreted what they say in the mosque prayers.

OK, mayb i need to re-phrase, different levels inside heaven? Think 5 star hotel, double room, double deluxe, superior with balcony, penthouse suite being the highest and best and most desirable.

BTW, i've never been to heaven, so i can only go by what i've heard / read about it.

no laughing matter, but still I feel like LOL!

I think the same way as Bishounen.


Off topic:

Since the topic of heaven and hell, and the layers of heavens started, I have posted this in reference to heaven and hell.


I had a dream yesterday.

In the dream, I had died and it was time to be tossed in hell or heaven. Since all my "sins" were based on not praying 5xs a day, wearing nail polish sometimes and still praying namaz, GS addiction!! and silly things like that - it was a tough moment for God to decide where to put me.

God looked at all those recently lined up with me - the innocent children of Gaza and decided that I must go to hell, because comparatively I was a sinner.

The children of Gaza - looked at God - and they said - BUT WE JUST went thought the fires of hell. We saw our families taken away from us. We saw our brothers and sisters melt away with the burn. We saw all of that, and we had respected and done everything you said. We prayed with our parents. Our parents prayed all 5xs too. Yet you put us through hell. they questioned WHY?

This is when God replied to them: God said it was the acts of Dajjal. Dajjal is tricking you in to this, so you do not believe in me anymore.


Wiki definition of Dajjal.... NOTE: The SIGNS OF HIS COMING part. Everything that's happened so far is so true and WAS predicted already!!!

Dajjal

Masih ad-Dajjal (Arabic: المسيح الدّجّال‎, literally "The Impostor Messiah") is an evil figure in Islamic eschatology. He is to appear pretending to be Masih (or the Messiah) at a time in the future, before Yawm al-Qiyamah (The Day of Resurrection, Judgment Day).

Usage

Dajjal is a common Arabic word, used in the sense of "false prophet", but al-Masih ad-Dajjal, with the definite article, refers to "the impostor", a specific end-of times deceiver. The term al-Masīḥ ad-Dajjāl (Arabic for "the false messiah") is a literal translation of the Syriac term Mšīḥā Daggālā, which had been in the common vocabulary of the Middle East and adapted into the Arabic language 400 years prior to the Qur'an via the Pe****ta (which uses that term instead of the Greek "Antichristos")

Eschatology

The belief is based around the events prior to the Day of Judgment around the Second Coming of The Christ, when ad-Dajjal who is blind in his right eye, shall gather an army of those he has deceived and lead them in a war against Jesus, who shall be accompanied by an army of the righteous.

He will appear somewhere between Syria and Iraq, at which time Jesus will return and Imam Mahdi will defeat ad-Dajjal in Palestine. He will travel the whole world in forty days preaching his falsehood but will be unable to enter Makkah or Madinah. [3]

Hadith attributed to Muhammad give many signs of the appearance of the Dajjal, and exhorted his followers to recite the first and last ten verses of Sura Al-Kahf, as protection from the trials and mischief of the Dajjal. It is said that he will have one eye damaged and the other will be working. It is also said that he will have the word " kafir" on his forehead.

There is nothing in the Islamic Holy Book, the Qur'an which mentions any such an events or characters; neither the events of the coming of an Imam Mahdi, the Dajjal, or Jesus returning prior to the day of resurrection when all human beings return from death to be judged before Allah.

Islam's description

The Qur'an doesn't mention the Dajjal by name, like the Hadith. A couple of hadith describe the Dajjal as follows:

Narrated Abdullah:
The Prophet mentioned the Massiah Ad-Dajjal in front of the people saying, Allah is not one eyed while Messsiah, Ad-Dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape. While sleeping near the Ka'ba last night, I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders. His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Kaba. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.' Behind him I saw a man who had very curly hair and was blind in the right eye, resembling Ibn Qatan (i.e. an infidel) in appearance. He was placing his hands on the shoulders of a person while performing Tawaf around the Ka'ba. I asked, 'Who is this? 'They replied, 'The Masih, Ad-Dajjal.' " [1]
Narrated Ibn Umar:
Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and then mentioned the Dajjal saying, "l warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed." [2]
Muhammad told his companions: "Every Messenger of Allah did warn his nation about the trials of Dajjal. Allah, however, delayed Dajjal’s birth and did not let him appear until now. Be aware! he will claim to be God and try to create doubts in your minds. Have a firm belief, the one-eyed creature cannot be your Lord. He will come out riding on a 'donkey', which will have a distance of one mile between its two ears. He will claim to have come with the gifts of paradise and arsenal of hell."[3]
‘Alī was reported to have said: "His right eye will be punctured, and his left eye would be raised to his forehead and will be sparkling like a star. Everyone will be able to read the word ‘Kāfir’ [disbeliever], inscribed in bold letters, within his two eyes. There will be big mountains of smoke at both front and backsides of his caravan. People will anticipate food within those mountains, during the severe famine. He will be riding on a huge white coloured 'donkey' who will cover a mile in a single stride. All rivers, falling in his way, will become dry and he will call upon people in aloud voice, ‘O my friends come to me! I am your lord who has made your limbs and given you sustenance.[4]

Signs of his coming
The following signs are ascribed to ‘Alī in the forthcoming of Dajjal: [5]

People will stop offering prayers
Dishonesty will be the way of life
Falsehood will become a virtue
People will mortgage their faith for worldly gains
Usuary and bribery will become legitimate
Imbeciles would rule over the wise
Blood of innocents would be shed
Pride will be taken on acts of oppression
The rulers will be corrupt
The scholars will be hypocrites
Adultery will be rampant
Women will rub shoulders with men in doing business
Women will dress like men, and men will dress like women
The liars and treacherous will be respected
There will be acute famine at the time

Defeat
Sunni author Maulana Ahmad Ali claims Imam Mahdi will arrange a Muslim army, and will be on the verge of leading the Muslims in morning prayer when Jesus will descend and kill the Dajaal (Abu-Umamah / Ibne Majah).[6] Shia Islam Twelvers believe that Dajjal will be killed by Muhammad al-Mahdi.[7][8]

Dajjal and the Devil

In Islam, the Dajjal and the Devil are defined as two separate beings.

Dajjal
The name given in the Hadith to certain religious impostors who shall appear in the world; a term equivalent to the christian use of the word Antichrist. Muhammad is related to have said there would be about thirty. The Masihu 'd-Dajjal or "the lying Christ" it is said will be the last of the Dajjals for an account of whom refer to article on MASIHU 'D-DAJJAL"[9].

Devil
The devil is an evil jinn. He is said to have been named Iblis. When God created Adam, Iblis refused to prostrate before him, and he was therefore expelled from Eden. Satan sought respite, an extension on his life till the Day of Judgment. He obtained it until the Day of Judgement, when he will be destroyed, (Vide Qur'an, surah vii, 13). According to the Qu'ran, the devil was created of (smokeless) fire, whilst Adam was created of (modified) clay."[10].