Genetically modified food

Okay, this stuff was in the news recently so I’d like to put this out for your opinions on it. Not looking for the political aspects or a halal/haram argument.

On the scientific aspects, which do you agree with and why? Will this stuff disrupt ecosystems and shift niches? I know there isn’t much data on this, but do you think eating it can harm the body? What are some currently identifiable limits on it? Etc…

These questions are just a start.. I’ll try to come back and add more soon, but there is much to talk about on this topic.

My only issue with such modified food is that they are not throughly tested. Genetics is a twisted science, it's results are not instant. Sometimes bad/good effects of something show up 3-4 generations down the road!

An independent panel, UK-based, concluded that there was a “very low” risk from GM crops. They seem to be more concerned about its effects upon the surrounding natural environment.

i am not certain if GM crops can “disrupt” the ecosystems - depends upon how far you take the definition of “disrupt”. i’m sure it causes substantial changes, but like Ahmadjee suggested - we need more research into precisely what those changes would be. Despite our advanced state of knowledge in this field, the bottom line is we still don’t understand all the intricacies of GM crops and their consequences upon surrounding ecosystems.

What we know now, is probably just a drop in the ocean of how much we have left to learn.

GM crops ‘low risk’ for humans, BBC, 21 July 2003

Genetically modified crops pose a “very low” risk to human health, according to an independent scientific review. A panel of 25 experts said it found no case for ruling out all GM crops in the UK and that the novel plants were unlikely to lead to the creation of “superweeds”.

But it raised doubts about the effects the new crops could have on the wider environment - particularly wildlife.

Critics, including former environment minister Michael Meacher, argued that GM plants and foods had not been properly tested and it was too soon to say they were safe.

The GM Science Review Panel said “there have been no verifiable untoward toxic or nutritionally deleterious effects” on human health.

But it did not say they were entirely safe and said more research was needed, particularly as new varieties entered the market. The panel added: “It is clear that gaps in our knowledge and uncertainties will become more complex if the range of plants and traits introduced increases.”

Questioning opponents’ claims that GM crops could cross-pollinate with existing species to create superweeds, the report said such organisms were “very unlikely to invade our countryside or become problematic plants”.

The UK Government’s chief scientific adviser, Sir David King, who chaired the panel, said the report’s findings could not be seen as an approval of all GM crops. He said: "GM is not a homogenous technology on which scientists can make blanket assurances on safety.

“Applications of GM technology will have to be considered on a case by case basis.”

Sir David warned against opposing the developments because of a lack of knowledge, arguing that “if we are paralysed by uncertainty, innovation and progress will be stifled”. He continued: "The very best science must be brought to bear on the important decisions that will need to be taken in the future.

“GM technology must not be considered in a vacuum but alongside conventional agricultural and food applications.”

The review was described as a “public scandal” by former environment minister Michael Meacher. He said GM food could have “very serious” consequences on health and that the tests were not rigorous enough. Mr Meacher told the BBC: “They say that they have found no evidence that eating GM food causes a health risk but what I think is a public scandal is that no-one has actually looked for the evidence; it is just assumed.”

Greenpeace chief scientist Dr Doug Parr said: "This committee was deliberately stacked with GM flag-wavers, but its so-called findings still come nowhere near justifying the risks.

“The report makes it clear there are areas of huge uncertainty.”

The environmental group called on the government to “admit defeat and halt its headlong rush towards a US-style embrace of GM”. Those working in the biotech sector welcomed what they said was a “measured” and “logical” approach to the issues involved.

Professor Chris Lamb, director of the John Innes Centre, which has made many advances in plant modification, said: "Through a careful analysis of the scientific evidence this report addresses issues raised by the public about the use of GM in agriculture and food.

"I welcome its clear endorsement of the potential benefits of GM crops and the safety of existing GM foods.

"The report recognises that GM is one crop improvement technology among several, and that the products of all these technologies should be assessed on a case-by-case basis.

“In this context I regret that the report does not make it more clear that the major environmental impacts of any new or existing crop are determined by how it is managed.”

its difficult to live a genetically modified FREE lifestyle now. almost impossible.

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its difficult to live a genetically modified FREE lifestyle now. almost impossible.
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Buying GM-free products is very easy in Europe... demand for GM-free food is so high that supermarkets stock GM-free food in virtually very category.

^ lucky euros.

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Buying GM-free products is very easy in Europe... demand for GM-free food is so high that supermarkets stock GM-free food in virtually very category.
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Very true. I do like that because, while I'm not afraid of eating GM food, I don't like excessive hormone use and other such chemical treatment. Europe does better than most places (in supermarkets, not farmer's markets ;)) with this regard and GM awareness seems to spill over into this area.

But back to GM crops and the environment.. I think the main worry here may be more philosophical/ethical than scientific. The main worry is that GM foods will cause the extinction of it's 'pureblood' predecessor. That scientifically-speaking shouldn't be such a concern because we will not be losing anything--kill one, add a copy and you're equal. It's like a da Vinci original versus a high-quality print.. the art and beauty is the same in both but one has a sentimental distinction while the other is more readily available to the public. Utility says the print should win.

More important than that, though, is the matter of whether or not these GM crops will react with their surroundings in ways that their predecessors didn't. If a crop is engineered to be more durable and thrive in adverse conditions, it could possibly intrude into ecosystems where the original never could and, because only one thing can be in any given spot, whoever lost that spot will die or relocate itself. This is like back in the day when colonial farmers would have a locust problem so they'd bring in foreign frogs. Then all the locusts are gone but you now have a frog problem worse than the locusts ever were. So you were better off leaving things alone.

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Buying GM-free products is very easy in Europe... demand for GM-free food is so high that supermarkets stock GM-free food in virtually very category.
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In Austria you won't even get GM food at all. It's still forbidden.

Starving African nations have been rejecting GM food Aid from the U.S. for quite awhile now due to safety concerns. Safer to let people starve to death is the thinking.