I understand cross dressing. That is a temporary thing and one can revert back to his/her normal lifestyle.
But what about surgery to change your gender? Do you know personally know anyone who has done it?
I want to understand the psychological implications of such change. Not the pre-surgery mind set but post-surgery challenges.
any thoughts?
You can see that I did not open this thread in Cafe, so I am expecting serious replies.
Mods, I think this thread is suited for this forum as I want to discuss the psychological health of such individuals, but if you want to move it to another forum, feel free to do it.
If you are contemplating such a surgery then you should be talking to your psychologist , psychiatrist and plastic surgeon . Do you seriously think you can find one GS member who has gone through this kind of ordeal ?
There are forums on Internet which deal with specifically this kind of issues. http://www.heartcorps.com/journeys/everything.htm http://www.narth.com/docs/desiresch.html
Begum, my father knows of a Indian hockey player who underwent surgery to become a woman. In fact I met her once but was too young that time to understand anything. A few years ago I did discuss it with him and he explained that she is very happy and satisfied with the change. I am not aware of the medical procedures she went through but I believe her family abandoned her, but she is well settled, single still.
You did not...you simply stated that you'd like to understand and thats a nice thing! Anyway, in the USA, the docs DO all of the psych workups to figure out whether a sex-change would be appropriate and follow their patients afterwards to help them adjust. Its a HUGE thing to get the doc to agree to do the procedure, they make VERY sure before hand and give lots and lots of support after.
I grew up in a pretty small town and there was this one boy who was born with an X-chromosome error and he was SO gay. He planned his surgery from the time he was a sophomore in high school. The poor guy was tortured and made fun of for his entire life. But he turned into a beautiful woman and last I heard (years ago), he finally found peace and happiness. And I wish him well, I wish him to find peace and serenity after all he suffered at the hands of nasty classmates.
So Niksik and MO3, both know someone who has done it.
I am always intrigued by the fact that such individuals face such cruelty before and after both, yet still go through such procedure and adopt that life style.
Is it just a chromosome error or do they have obsession with a female body, so much so that instead of just getting near one, they want to adopt one by becoming her?
Begum, I believe the need is greater than the fear. The lady I know is very happy with her life and more productive. I think she has her coaching center that she runs successfully. She may have lost many friends and family members but I guess her need to change was greater. We cannot really say what goes into the minds of these people, how they feel, or how they are supposed to feel, but it is a fact of life.
For the surgery you need to prove that you live at least one full year as the opposite gender, then you will be given the clear for surgery (this is standard procedure).
I know a few people who have gone through the surgery or are currently in hormone therapy to begin the process.
These people are literally born with the wrong body. Their brain is that of the opposite gender, and thus they feel psychologically and physically torn. I've never met anyone who wasn't happy with their transformation.
oh there is also a case about gender change in law....i cant think of that case name
but it was sumthing like that
the father gt his gender changed and went to the local supermaket for shopping ...his son was used to work there...so he got so embarrsd tht he strt hitng his dad...
bla bla bla
hmm..that's like asking whether the person is male or female after getting the procedure done..i guess it's how you look at them and what you accept them as
No he is not because he has had a biological change and is now practically a woman. See, transvestites are those who are one gender but dress up like the other and act like the other...but gender change requires medical and surgical intervention meaning that they convery from one gender to another.
I live close to a city which has a lot of gays and transexuals. I was reading one of their free newspapers and there was an article about some transexuals with regret....all their life they had dressed as female and when they got the surgery, they felt a big sense of loss and they felt that the extra hormones made them lose their personality. One guy did not have his manhood anymore and wanted to go back to being a guy. This really shocked and saddened me...I am still not sure what to think of just an average guy doing this.
On the other hand, some people are born intermediate and they are assigned the wrong gender...so people may see them as one thing, but inside they have always felt the other way. In these cases I understand.
Also, there have been cases where circumcisions have been botched and the boy has been raised female. However, nothing can change the fact that mentally, this 'girl' feels like a boy. So if upon adulthood, she wanted to have surgery to become a boy (which is what she is supposed to be anyway), I would support it. Imagine how difficult it is for such a person...having the stigma of a supposed 'sex change' when it is not a change in the first place. My point is sometimes the situation is not so clearcut, so not all of the people who have such surgeries are sexual deviants or transexuals.
I know that in Iran, the clerics have approved sex changes. My litmus test for whether something is ok is would i be ok with my child doing it? And honestly, I am not sure...I think I would be distraught
that is a very good question .. so after sex change, if they get married, are they involve in homosexual act or hetro?