Gen wesley clark in the race?

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What I like best about him is it pisses him off as much as much as it does me that Republicans consider any criticism of Bush's policies as 'unpatriotic' or 'unAmerican'. Hopefully he will be able to stop that argument in its tracks and bring about real debate of Bush's failed economic and foreign policies.
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Seminole so you agree that Bush's foreign polcy (is there one?) is a failure.

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Seminole so you agree that Bush's foreign polcy (is there one?) is a failure.
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Yeah, Kaleem. Does that mean we finally agree on something and I won't get insulted in this thread?

Kaleem that's the problem, Bush's foreign policy is foreign to him. It seems to be a 'play it by ear' policy and what Americans and the rest of the world are hearing is something they don't like.

No. It just means you’ll get insulted from a different direction. :wave: Let me try: Does your bitterness stem from your victimization by the infamous Butterfly ballot?

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Does your bitterness stem from your victimization by the infamous Butterfly ballot?
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My opinions of his job performance have nothing to do with his Supreme Court appointment or any bitterness. I believe his foreign policy has been a total disaster and his domestic policy almost eqaully disastorous.

So now according to Bush enthusiasts I am unAmerican, unpatriotic, a traitor. I'm a Dixie Chick!

Worse, actually. You can't even sing.

Neither can the Dixie Chicks.

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So now according to Bush enthusiasts I am unAmerican, unpatriotic, a traitor. I'm a Dixie Chick!
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I've seen you in action patriotically defending the good ol U S of A in the face of the trashiest charges by the most heinous of GS anti-American zealots. Notwithstanding that you are on the wrong side of the American political spectrum, I am proud to call you my brother and will defend you against charges of being unAmerican, unpatriotic and a traitor when I hear those charges from the ignoramous contingent of the Republican party who join me on the RIGHT side of American politics.

Just remember, that the WRONG/LEFT side also has an ignoramous contingent and I might need a little support from you against some nasty things they may say about me.

Actually I'm not on the left or any one place. I hold many views which are considered right, many left and many that can't be defined. I hate labels. I am anxious to hear more from the General. So far I've liked what I heard, but I don't know his stance on many of the issues. And don't worry myvoice, I've got your back.

I'd like to express my extreme point-of-view
I'm not a Christian and I'm not a Jew
I'm just living out the American dream
And I just realized that nothing is what it seems

~ Prophet Madonna

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I hate labels.

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You should have seen Gen Clark on News Night (Aaron Brown - CNN) last night. He said exactly the same thing. He is clever (so far). He plans to say just the right things.

Right things = those which will win him popular support. Don't expect him to go too much into controversial issues. Whatever brings the votes in, he will be that.

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Right things = those which will win him popular support. Don't expect him to go too much into controversial issues. Whatever brings the votes in, he will be that.
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Yeah, but that's a general election plan.. he has to win the Dem nomination first.

So what's up with libertarians?? Me? I stand everywhere and nowhere, I don't like any of the parties' regular issues. But an increasing number of people with the same attitude (attitude, not views) are calling themselves libertarians now? What's up with that? Are these people just disgruntled or what? They scare me :p

How many could have predicted that Gen Clark will jump right to the front of all Democratic Presidential candidates. The Newsweek poll put him at 14% ahead of Lieberman and Dean.

I don't think polls mean all that much right now.

They will gradually become more and more important, especially when New Hapnshire and Iowa voters are getting ready for the primaries and looking at the ever-growing list of Dem candidates... Today the black lady also announced her candidacy.

Plus, it shows how stale the other candidates are... that they have been fishing for public acceptance for months and still no one gives a jack about them.

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His best asset is, perhaps, that most Americans recognize him.. unlike Kerry, Dean or Edwards. Perhaps only Lieberman or Clinton (H) can claim as much face recognition.
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do recall that Clinton was not well known when he entered the race but that did not stop him from kicking GHWB outta DC. so face recognition is important but what the person has to say and what he has to offer are important too.

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Plus, it shows how stale the other candidates are... that they have been fishing for public acceptance for months and still no one gives a jack about them.
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Americans have the attention span of a 4 year old in a candy store and everything thus far has been on the backburner, you can't expect the public to give a 'jack' yet. As it becomes colder in the states and vacations come to an end people will start to focus on what's going on. If George Clinton from the P Funk Allstars were running for president he would have the highest poll ratings right now just because people would see the name Clinton.

I agree with underthedome. It's a shame that the attention span of people in a lot of countries, not just the US, is pretty short.

Oh well...

True, im sure this view is shared by millions of peace loving Americans :k:. Talking about General Clark, in recent days he has been highly critical of President Bush’s justification for war.

Clark: Iraq war a ‘$150b mess’](http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/clark/articles/2003/12/09/clark_iraq_war_a_150b_mess/) Boston News

“I think they made the decision to go after Saddam, and worked very hard to find the evidence to justify it. But they failed. That evidence was not there. It is not there. It was a wrong war. It was an unnecessary war. And it is a $150 billion mess today,” he said.

Notice the date of Clark’s interview? 12/09/03. Talk about bad timing. A couple days later, Saddam gets pulled out of his hole and both Clark and Dean get skewered by their DEM rivals.