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Israeli Zionist army is not even sparing hospitals if we believe aljazeera sources. Israeli troops are pounding the area with air and artillery strikes, according to Gaza medical officials and local reports that described the scene as a massacre.

I just pray Allah that somehow some positive comes out of this qiyamat…

but IDF has been hit hard…one solider has been captured alive, and Israel took some of its worst military losses in years, with the Israel Defense Forces tweeting: “Since last night, 13 soldiers from the IDF’s Golani Brigade were killed while fighting Hamas terorrists in Gaza.”

Thousands flee as Israel pounds Gaza; death toll climbs on both sides - LA Times

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I don't think anyone in their right mind supports Hamas, even the West Bank leaders are asking "What are you guys getting by throwing rockets?".

The economy, instead of rotating around tunnel building and rocket building, could be used to something positive. I have friends online posting about hamas sponsored TV programs for kids where they teach little kids to hate jewish people.

I mean, nothing is going to progress if this hate speech continues amongst muslims.

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When you get bombed for not doing anything then why blame Hamas for attempting to cause some damage to Israel? Israel will continue to bomb Gazans for one excuse or the other.

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If they do not throw rockets, at least lives are spared and if even slowly, people move out and abandon Gaza, it would be better for them than this.

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Really? Please check the root cause of the current conflicts. This is besides daily pick-up of Palestinians never to return, grabbing of land to build more settlements etc.

I am probably hallucinating, not sure if I read it right... are you suggesting they migrate out of their land, migrate to where, sea/ocean/dead-sea?

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Neighboring Arab countries should open up their doors and let them immigrate out , grant asylum.

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Just wonder why have they woke up after Israeli soldiers started having the causalities :hmmm:

Kerry, UN chief head to Cairo to negotiate Israel cease-fire

Published July 21, 2014FoxNews.com

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Islamic militants fired more rockets and Israeli planes continued to strike homes in Gaza Monday as the United Nations chief and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry headed to Cairo for a new round of negotiations to end two weeks of deadly fighting in the Jewish state.
Kerry and U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon are hoping talks in Egypt will result in a cease-fire after days of air and ground assaults have left 20 Israelis and 510 Palestinians dead and tens of thousands driven from their homes in Gaza.
President Obama told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that Kerry would seek a cease-fire based on the truce agreed to by Israel and Hamas in November 2012. In that agreement, Israel agreed to stop incursions into Gaza as long as Hamas and other Palestinian factions agreed to stop attacking Israel.
The U.N. Security Council called for an immediate halt to fighting in the Gaza Strip at an emergency session Sunday evening, but stopped short of considering a draft resolution that would have called for Israeli forces to withdraw from the territory.
A press statement issued by the Security Council expressed “serious concern at the escalation of violence,” called for the protection of civilians under international humanitarian law, and said it was troubled by the growing number of casualties.
The draft resolution had been proposed by Jordan, which had requested the meeting of the Security Council as the Arab League’s representative on the panel. However, the Jordanian proposal was not discussed.
Prior to the closed-door session, the U.N.'s Ban Ki-Moon criticized Israel’s ground offensive in Gaza, labeling it “an atrocious action.”
Hope for ceasefire overshadowed by clashes, rising death tolls in Israel | Fox News

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Any masacre, genocide, mass execution has to result in these events, but look at the anti-islam comments under this news:

Fears of French Gaza spillover grow after ‘anti-semitic’ riot in Paris suburb* - Images - News - The Independent

Fears of French Gaza spillover grow after ‘anti-semitic’ riot in Paris suburb

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Fears are growing that the Gaza conflict could transfer to the streets of France after Jewish-owned shops were burned and pillaged last night during a second violent pro-Palestinian demo in the space of two days.
Riot police held back a mob of youths who tried to attacks two synagogues in the town of Sarcelles in the northern Paris suburbs.
A pro-Gaza demonstration in a town with a large Jewish population began peacefully but degenerated into attacks on Jewish and Chaldean businesses and four hours of running battles between youths and police.

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and once Israel starts taking over Syria, Jordan, Egypt territories people over there should also quietly slip out of those areas to let Israel build settlements, take over resources?

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Haters are everywhere, you look any news which talks about a Muslim country and you will see the 'liberal' extremists venting their anger there, though there was no need of burning/looting of any business regardless of to whom it belonged.

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Now how is this helping anything?

We can point fingers all we want, but we muslims have brought destruction on ourselves, by really stupid antics. Where are the moms of all these boys that are causing chaos over in France? How does this make us moderate muslims look? It makes us looking retarded, that’s what it makes us look like.

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Walking away and moving to another territory is not a foreign concept to Islam. Rasulullah (saw) did just that - he translocated his entire group from makkah to medina.

Secondly, here's another tidbit. Surah Baqra explicity talks about the changing of the Qibla. We muslims should not be regarding al aqsa as our qibla. No one should be praying towards it. It has a historical significance that is fine, but when people talk about how our qibla is being taken from us, they talk of ignorance. It's not our qibla. Allah gave us another direction to pray, probably for this reason so we wouldn't eventually clash with other groups that do regard jurusalem as their qibla.

I say if they want it, take it. Spare the precious lives instead.

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Since you are not there so its easier said than done. They have lived there for generations and you want them to walk away because there is a new criminal in town? Rasullah swt did that because he was asked to. As for Baitul Aqdas, it is not a qibla, its an 'ex-qibla' and all Muslims know that.

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I'm not saying they shouldn't struggle to keep their land. In fact, I think they should get their land back, and their houses back, and if those houses are no longer there, they need to be rebuilt for them. That's the most fair solution, which will never happen.

But throwing rockets at civilian targets in present day Israel, that too knowing there is an iron dome in place that will render your rockets useless, is simply irresponsible and reckless. You can't complain about civilian deaths, when your own elected representatives are trying to attack civilians on the opposing side.

Islam is not about attacking civilians. Simple. These people and their war tactics, and stupidity is causing problems for them and for everyone else.

If they were not so reckless, then they probably would be seeing more allies and help, but people are afraid to help lest they be associated with an organization that is considered to be a terrorist organization.

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Another sane person:

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    Sir David](https://profile.yahoo.com/Z2W52KGHJX2VAQLSXWU3IX2TPA) • 3 minutes 57 seconds ago Report AbuseAnyone who is silent, is a bish, straight up, fux whatever race or religion you are, neither gives anyone a right to take life so easily, when Black on Black violence overwhelms a community, it’s wrong, when it’s white on Black, it’s wrong, when it’s American on immigrant, it’s wrong, when.it’s straight on gay, it’s wrong, when it’s Muslim on Muslim, it’s wrong, when it’s Muslim on Christian and vice versa, it’s wrong, when it’s Jewish on Arab and vice versa, it’s wrong. The problem is there is no more value on life, whether it’s internal, external, based on conditions imposed or by way of superiority. All too often, people says when Arabs or Muslims kills, particularily their own or Jews, they are automatically branded terrorists, but when Jews kills Palestinians, somehow they escapes being branded as such, but how the fux you kill nearly 600 people, mostly civilian and not be held accountable, but best believe, Palestinians period, will surely pay for those 27 dead Israeli soldiers and here’s how they’ll pay, a full-fledged military will indiscrimanately kill an even more disproportionate amount of civilians, then says Hamas is hiding behind them, if true, why the fux do YOU keeps firing back, more homes will be completely destroyed, more sanctions will be imposed, more restrictions in their movement will occur, more settlements will be built, but not a got damn thing will happen to Israel, none, not one rocket or dollar will stop flowing to them from the US, not one sanction will be placed on them, not even one military campaign will be carried out against them, then you wonders why they hates you!

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Not directed at any guppy but addressing all these hamas-lovers @ twitter, facebook and million forums...guys instead of sitting in your peaceful bedrooms from where you keep on encouraging poor Palestinians to support hamas strategy and sacrifice their lives....have some respect and go fight with hamas ....

and more importantly just imagine for sake of discussion only.... if these hamas lovers have to send their own beloved ones to gaza to go fight along with hamas....

I will then ask these hamas-lovers of hamas strategy once they have to god forbidden pick the dead bodies of their beloved ones....once they have to put their son or nephew into the grave, i will then ask them about viability of hamas strategy

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and those who do not want to give peace any chance and keep yelling with this hateful proposition that israel will destroy each and every inch of gaza no matter what....fine keep yelling and keep spreading hate because you have nothing to lose from peace of your bedrooms but history will definitely dictate that in last 18 months gaza was relatively peaceful, Palestinians were sleeping peacefully (relative to last 3 weeks), and no settlements were made in gaza...until all hell broke lose when those 3 Israeli boys were murdered by some malicious people and gave Zionists an excuse to attack gaza.......

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Murder of 3 civilians in one country of one background is not enough reason to go and destroy a whole group of people, and bomb their innocents.

There are crimes daily in the US, and often by minorities that are from poor socioeconomic backgrounds. Do we go to their countries of origin and open fire? No. That would be crazy. But that's what has been done here. Instead of doing an investigation and bringing the perpetrators of that crime to justice, they instead take some innocent palestinian kid and burn him alive, and then beat the crap out of his cousin (who happens to be a US citizen).

Burned ALIVE. Wait I'm sorry, did that kid go kill 3 Israeli kids that he was burned alive?

So, on top of the obstruction to trade, movement, humiliating encounters at the border, prevention of rights to agriculture, preventing women from seeking professional obstetric care outside their ghetto borders, keeping an educated population unemployed, not even allowing a bloody turkish ship to come to port for charity and trade for crying out loud...

I mean the atrocities have added up. You can't blame people for wanting to fight back. It's not terrorism, it's a rebellion to fight for their rights, that have decade after decade been slowly taken from them.

Having said that, Hamas threw rockets targeting civilian targets. So, muslims can't play victim and play aggressor at the same time either, just as other populations can't do that. Firing rockets at civilians in retaliation just spirals the situation out of control, and the result is in front of us. At some point, showing restraint and mercy can be a GREAT tactical move. Neither side is figuring this out.

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excuse me PCG? are you calling me a zionist?

where did i say that zionits reaction was proportionate and justifiable? it never was and it never will be.....

where did i say that Murder of 3 civilians in one country of one background is enough reason to go and destroy a whole group of people, and bomb their innocents?

where did i say that burning innocent Palestinian kid alive was ok?

zionists are the biggest terrorists themselves on this planet (and yes not all jews are zionists....just like all muslims are not fundamentalists taliban or al qaeda) and all i am saying how to eliminate or minimize those factors that provide these zionists with an excuse to exercise this brutality.

I believe Hamas's slogan of death to israel and destroy isarel in itself breeds violence and in turn that violence provides these zionsits with a launching pad to exercise their brutality ...

**now let me also make another important point... if hamas was a legitimate power, even 30% of Israeli force, i would have supported hamas's military struggle **but 50 years of violent struggle has not provide Palestinians with any thing..that is why yaser arafat gave up military struggle and decided to negotiate.

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Forget negotiating, I think people need to leave. Go to neighboring countries, go to the West, go sit in Japan, anywhere but in front of the line of fire.

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‘Death to Arabs’](Right-wingers Beat Haifa Deputy Mayor During Anti-war Protest - Haaretz Com).

The death of humanity.

The Gaza death toll is about to reach 600 (not counting the thousands injured, maimed and disabled for life) And Israeli protesters come out in support of Gaza massacre to chant ‘Death to Arabs’](Right-wingers Beat Haifa Deputy Mayor During Anti-war Protest - Haaretz Com). Western media won’t report that, but PD, do you condemn and equally blame such extreme racist hatred and passion for violence by Israeli citizens as you do by Hamas terrorists?