Gaza Under attack

[phoenixdesi]

Re: Gaza Under attack

@Jolie

Now you are talking as if you are a great social scientist. People are not mind readers. Since when did making sweeping and boorish generalisation about a huge population based on personal experience in certain geographical area becomes ‘focused point’. You clearly didn’t say half of the things in your original post that you are saying now which would’ve made your post look a lot respectable and reasonable. But that makes me repeat my earlier point that people are not mind readers.

There’s a big difference between acknowledging the problem, introspecting and making sweeping generalizations and callously stereotyping to prove a point. People do the former all the time in PA and everywhere else in the forum, but you tend to get so hyperbolic and self destructively negative and dogmatic that it makes you look like a victim of internalized racism.

When you declare a large group of people as innately racist against certain groups, it hardly matters how loudly you emphasis that they get along fine with the one or two odd groups. It makes no different.

I don’t expect you grasp the impact of such crass generalisation, accusation and stereotyping that has on Pakistani community (especially overseas Pakistanis) that absolutely has nothing to do with such behaviour and in fact condemn it. I don’t expect you to respect their position and voices. But I belong to that group, and I know how damaging such lazy and racist generalisation can be, therefore I wholeheartedly oppose such moral duplicity. There is so much to Pakistan and Pakistanis than certain bigots and racists from the Pinds of Northern Punjab.

Obviously your particular point will always be politically correct that do not generalize…I am not debating that and i wish i had the liberty of exercising “do-not-generalize” mantra in yahood and hanood case in pakistan

but in context of “hanood and yahood” especially yahood and the way we in Pakistan think about them, say things about them and do not feel even one iota bad, i stand behind my words. I repeat it, i am not making casual stereotyping on this issue, as i see it. I feel very strong about this issue in our society and i have right to have viewpoint.

I mentioned about pinds, villages and what not just to make a point that yes i am now an American Pakistani but i lived for many years in different societies in Pakistan especially in my formative years and I am not an outsider who made up his mind based on some articles.

And no..i wish it was only some bigots from pinds in nortehrn punjab but that is not the case. I challenge, go to peshawar or any NWFP village and call a pathan a yahoodi and then see his reaction. When yoiu grow up in a country, read same literature, newspapers, hang out with freinds, travel acorss the country you obviously know where most of people stand on a certain issue. That is why i said we Pakistanis adore Sikhs despite the massacre they conducted in 1947.

If i am generalizing everything then i should have called pakistaniss hating every religion but i specifically said that somehow we adore sikhs (love their jokes etc), we are ok with Christians and Buddhists but when it comes to yahood and or hanood especially yahood, we as a nation have a different level off reaction. I dont know why? why so much intensity against them? maybe because they were particularly harsh on our prophet..i dont know. I am raising this point not to malign my people but as an issue that needs to be resolved.

You have made your point and i have made mine. we shd get back to the topic.