Re: Gay Sibling- your reaction
well aurchai piyo, what do you think of the idea that gay people are sick and need help, as a couple of folks have mentioned above?
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Nobody would willing choose to be gay. Nobody would choose to be reviled as some people do revile gay people. Rather I think it is something they can't NOT be. It just IS for them. Me, I'm straight, my "plumbing" is all very standard, I don't think about it, I just AM.
Gay people who must (either from their own guilt or from others' pressure) hide who they are, become very twisted, very miserable. Imagine if the majority were gay and you had to hide or deny the fact that you were hetero -- how screwed up you would be!
I have a kuveschun.
If you cannot pray namaaz the normal way because of knee pain or something, you can pray sitting on the sofa. If you cannot even sit, you can pray lying down with hand signals. If you are travelling, you don't even have to pray full namaaz or do full wudu.
If you're travelling, sick, pregnant etc, you do not have to fast.
If you're stuck in a desert with only wine to drink to save your life, even that will be forgiven by Allah.
We weren't allowed to have sex during all of ramadan at first but then it was allowed after iftari because couples just couldn't control their feelings for that long and constantly breached the "no sex during ramadan" guideline which was then changed to suit us.
Intoxicants were forbidden for muslims in different steps over a preiod of years to make it easier for them to give up alcohol (unlike homosexuality which was forbidden at once) - at first, they drank as much as they wanted to before any verses about alcohol consumption were revealed in the Quran. Then, a verse commanded them not to attend prayer while intoxicated. A later verse warned people that alcohol contains more evil than good so avoid it. And then it was finally deemed haram.
All in all, Allah swt has made this religion as easy for us as possible. Now the question is, if homosexuality was something we just couldn't control like you and Theorist are claiming, why didn't Allah make it easy for us then? Why didn't He allow it? Let's say homosexual tendencies are infact natural/genetic, that doesn't change the fact that it is still haram for us to act upon the tendencies. There are no if's and but's, no compromises, no changing the guidelines to suit us, no leniency whatsoever - why not if gays were infact as helpless, wronged, screwed up and miserable as you're portraying them to be?
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^ I have a very valid answer for you but if I said it it would be extremely offensive. Again, let's keep religion aside. We understand your faith doesn't allow you to accept homosexuality, which is fine. It's just too bad gays in our society will have to suffer just because people are not "allowed" to feel sorry for them or enable them to live a normal life. That's just sad..
You would have to be gay to understand if it's natural or unnatural.
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You would have to be gay to understand if it's natural or unnatural.
a gay person's word vs. scripture?
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^ I know not a chance...
Whatever... people make me really sad.
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So i posted the same videos on the other gay child thread and I will here too. There ARE people who are born gay. And Homosexuality is not looked down upon in islam(well thats what I make out of it atleast) its having gay relationships that is Haraam, as it is not healthy for the couple itself.
well heres some proof.
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lol cannot believe some of these comments. well technically, yeah i can..
firstly, i don't have a problem with gays unless they decide to have a weird pda session right in front of me. even heteros doing that is gross.
when it comes to religion... we have ALL compromised at some point. some more than others, we are not perfect little muslims. your sibling, if they are gay, are not perfect. how on earth is being homosexual a DISEASE?? are you kidding me!?! yes if they are homosexual i am willing to help them and protect them. and if they choose to ACT upon their homosexuality then i would try to show them that it is unacceptable in islam. but i will not cut off any ties if they choose not to listen to me, perhaps we won't be as close but i'm not going to cut them out of my life for their life choices which they will be answerable to Him for. my siblings, we're bound by blood, i have spent most of my life with them.. i have changed their nappies and i have fed them and i have cared for them like an older sister would. that bond i have with them will not be broken so easily just because they swing the wrong way. whatever my religion has taught me, i get it, but just like you can keep it civil when you come across people whose lifestyle you don't approve, how can you possibly treat your siblings worse than that if they are gay?
Allah swt is merciful, He knows better the hardships we all face, He has set up tests in life for everyone perhaps that is why it's not easy for them. because yes, islam has been made easy for us, but not too easy that we don't have to understand the struggles and learn to resist temptations. it's a learning process, and some pass whilst others fail. but i dunno how far you're gonna get if you fail to stick a helping hand out to your own goddamn blood. your own sibling. islam also doesn't tell you to pick up a pitchfork and burn down the homos, some of you need to realise the difference between society/culture and religion. unapproval of it is fine, acting upon your distaste for them, or b*****ng them as being the targets of a disease is another.
Re: Gay Sibling- your reaction
^ I have a very valid answer for you but if I said it it would be extremely offensive. Again, let's keep religion aside. We understand your faith doesn't allow you to accept homosexuality, which is fine. It's just too bad gays in our society will have to suffer just because people are not "allowed" to feel sorry for them or enable them to live a normal life. That's just sad..
You would have to be gay to understand if it's natural or unnatural.
Are you trying to tell us all something?? Don't feel hesitant to do so, please....let it all out on GS. :p
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oops teehee 
that says b r anding. but the r a n d i part was asterisk’d cuz umm yknow, it’s a naughty word ^____^
Re: Gay Sibling- your reaction
well aurchai piyo, what do you think of the idea that gay people are sick and need help, as a couple of folks have mentioned above?
Some people think lefthanded people are sick and it used to be much effort was spent in the olden days trying to "train it out of them". But if you are lefthanded, you know what is natural for you. I am seriously righthanded (only things I do lefthanded, oddly enough, are hold a pool cue and a hockey stick - don't ask me why!), so I can imagine how difficult it would be to be forced or shamed into doing everything with the wrong hand, because of other people's misconception of what constitutes "acceptable" or "normal" behaviour.
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That same scripture says slavery is cool…
Re: Gay Sibling- your reaction
I have a kuveschun. All in all, Allah swt has made this religion as easy for us as possible. Now the question is, if homosexuality was something we just couldn't control like you and Theorist are claiming, why didn't Allah make it easy for us then? Why didn't He allow it? Let's say homosexual tendencies are infact natural/genetic, that doesn't change the fact that it is still haram for us to act upon the tendencies. There are no if's and but's, no compromises, no changing the guidelines to suit us, no leniency whatsoever - why not if gays were infact as helpless, wronged, screwed up and miserable as you're portraying them to be?
This line always irks me: it sounds like a heavy-handed, manipulative, control-freak husband saying, "It will be much easier on you if you just submit to my orders." It is only easy if it suits you. Islam is no more "easy" than any other religion.
People who must deny who they are and suppress their true natures are generally screwed up.
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