Gay Marriages

Canada became the second country in the world to legally permit Gay marriages. Now Britain may be the next country in this wave. Back home in India, the Indian Panel Code contains the provision taken from the old British law of nineteenth century in which homosexuality is punishable by twenty years of imprisonment. But surprisingly no body has either been convicted or punished in India under this provision so far.

The research conducted in 1940’s in USA suggests that approximately 20% of Human population have a tendency towards either homosexuality or biosexuality. So if we believe this research then one out of five amongst us have this tendency. So this works out to 20% vote bank in a democracy like Canada. In Canada, gay groups are very strong and no political party can ignore 20% vote bank.

I had a glimpse of it when I stayed in a youth hostel during my first week in Canada in March this year. I discovered on third or fourth day that this particular youth hostel was a favourite meeting place for gays. I used to see their posters and banners and freely circulating magazines. This was the time when powerful campaign was going on in Canada to legalise the gay marriages. Back home in India, I had read a funny cartoon on this in a Hindi magazine with the message:

“Ladki Hi Ladki Se Gar Isq Ladaayegi
To Ulti Ganga Bahne Lag Jaayegi
Privaar Niyojan Safal Hogaa
Phir To Aabaadi Badhne Na Paayegi”

Few years ago, I had visited the beautiful Khajuraho temples in the central part of India which depicts all possible forms of sex in its beautiful carved stones. These temples were built by a Hindu king at 1050 A.D. (Almost 1000 years ago) when Islam had not arrived in the Indian subcontinent and almost all ancestors of Indian and Pakistanis were followers of Buddhism. The idea was to lure buddhist to reconvert into Hinduism by depicting sexual acts on carved stones. This idea did work and Hinduism sprung back in India after few centuries. In an exactly similar vien, today the Western culture is overwhelming eastern culture because of its sexual openness.

So what I want to say is that the homosexuality is not a new phenomena and it existed since time immemorial as proven by temples like Khajuraho which depicts all forms of sex possible by humans. I had seen sex with animals too on carved stones.

So my question is what is the stand of Islamic law on this subject and how Pakistani society views this controversial issue?

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as if you dont know..:rolleyes:

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Mai Kasam Khaa kar Kahtaa Hoon Ke Mai Bilkul Nahin Jaantaa. Mai Apni Ammi Ki Kasam Khaa Kar Kahtaa Hoon.

I swear that my knowledge on Islamic law is really poor.:slight_smile:

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Toba hai....islam mai itni kasmain khana mana hai..

thank a lot

abhi i gotta go..kal yaad raha tou jawab doon gi..

AH

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You forced me to swear. I am a real kid on Islamic law. Guppies like “Pyari Se Gudia” and others can teach this kid about this subject. I won’t hesitate to be their student.

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http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_151_200/same_sex_marriage_and_marriage_i.htm%between%

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Right, so lets see.

Pakistanis love homosexuality.

Pakistanis love human-animal sexual relationships. I mean, in Pakistan, everyone is doing a goat these days.

:rolleyes:

Jeez, idiotic questions deserve idiotic answers.

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Good keen observation Sal35 :k:

You seems like a good observer of surroundings and society.

Maybe the 20% assumption is right but it varries in different societies

Like all other major religions, Islam condemn homosexuality.

Pakistani society is quite conservative from outside, homosexuality is rare, Bisexuality is common in northen and north western part of pakistan, but mostly in the form of child molestation i.e molestation of young boys is a rampant in most of the parts of Pakistan. this henious crime is rarely reported and criminals roam freely

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Pakistan is still far away from acknowledging heterosexual sex so the homosexuals can expect to stay in the closet for a while. :)

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^

Spot on.

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Hey sal35, you weren't staying at the YMCA were you? because if you were, I have these words of wisdom for you:

Young man - there's no need to feel down
I said - young man, pick yourself off the ground
I said - young man, *'cause you're in a new town *
There's no need to be unhappy

Young man - there's a place you can go
I said - young man, when you're short on your dough
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
They have everything for young men to enjoy.
You can hang out with all the boys.
It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
You can get yourself clean
You can have a good meal
You can do whatever you feel.

Young man - are you listening to me
I said - young man, what do you want to be
I said - young man, you can make real your dreams,
but you've got to know this one thing.

No man, does it all by himself
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf
And just go there, to the Y.M.C.A.
I'm sure they can help you today

It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
They have everything for young men to enjoy.
You can hang out with all the boys.
It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
You can get yourself clean
You can have a good meal
You can do whatever you feel.

Young Man, I was once in your shoes,
I said, I was down and out with the blues
I felt - No man cared if I were alive
I felt the whole world was so jive

That's when someone came up to me
and said young man take a walk up the street
There's a place there called the Y.M.C.A.
They can start you back on your way.

It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
They have everything For young men to enjoy.
You can hang out with all the boys.
Y.M.C.A.
It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
Young man, Young man, there's no need to feel down
Young man, Young man, pick yourself off the ground

Y.M.C.A.
just go to the Y.M.C.A.
Young Man, Young Man, I was once in your shoes,
Young Man, Young Man, I was out with the blues

Y.M.C.A.
Y.M.C.A.
Y.M.C.A.
Y.M.C.A.

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So my question is what is the stand of Islamic law on this subject and how Pakistani society views this controversial issue?

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I think that things in Pakistan are handled no differently than in any other part of the world...

From a religious standpoint... taboo.

From a social standpoint... not accepted... in fact i've only heard of a single proper gay marriage in Khyber somewhere.

Socially... it's a stigma... although with the era of "enlightened moderation" we have going on in the country... it's coming out slowly.

Tons of people... only 1 or 2 coming out of the closet.

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Great post/thread, sal35! :k:

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At least one guy appreciated me. Otherwise, for my every post, I get slapped, ragged, laughed at and what not. :crying:

Thanks for your appreciation