Re: Gay couple sexually abused boys they were fostering
You Muslims can call the actions of this gay couple homosexuality, rape, sexual abuse or harassment and you may well disagree with it but you are in no position to call it paedophilia because in your culture a person seizes to be a child when they reach puberty and become a young adult, your Prophet married a girl when she was 6 years old and consummated his marriage with her when she reached puberty at the age of 9, this is in your scriptures I can quote references upon request, the apologetics amongst you may deny this and try explaining those traditions away but the fact remains that the majority of your past generations and their scholars and the majority of your scholars today consider these traditions to be authentic and genuine and such young marriages were not uncommon in your society only 20-30 years ago and even today in parts of Asia and Africa, just ask your grandmothers what age they married at.
Re: Gay couple sexually abused boys they were fostering
good post überalles!
thought i don't agree on your "legal age" what is legal age? age for vote? too late, age for sexual consent is what? age of legal responsabilities? age from which people can go to jail because they are responsible??
westerners are too hypocriteregarding legal age, children of 16 years old may be old enough to go to jail but not to vote! what an insult to human brain! if we are old enough to know what's wong from right then w should have the right to vote, and to work and to deal with our money and to travel freely with no parent consent!
Legal age should be when one completes highschool education or if retains age of 18.
Re: Gay couple sexually abused boys they were fostering
A male threatened by a smart women who thinks independently and confidently writes observations of society always throws jabs instead of analytical logical counter points. its too bad you feel inferior and not confident with such a woman. PS brains and beauty and confidence is bred from education not from sexual orientation. You sure don't know much. Based on your sentiments one could only describe you as niether gay or heterosexual but rather impotent like a eunich both mentally and physically in ability.
Re: Gay couple sexually abused boys they were fostering
^^
uberalles = smart woman, independent thinker, confident, writes observations of society, analytical and makes men feel inferior and weak, has brains and beauty which she claims is bred from education…
Re: Gay couple sexually abused boys they were fostering
There should be a muhim against gays, just poison them all to death. This is so sad, sometime back I had an argument on this with a couple of guppies & told them that gays WILL target children, & here u go. Really pathetic. That kids life is ruined, thanks to the so called moderate society.
I got the shivers when I heard Dr. Israr Ahmed lecture on the azaab that came on Hazrat Lut's people. A very sad time to be in today.
Re: Gay couple sexually abused boys they were fostering
Uberalles
So i guess we are all pedophiles in England where our legal age is 16...please explain to me what your opinion is based on...why 18 and not 17?...why not 21 and not 14?...Thats the thing with your beloved system...it has no basis except the opinion of masses...our legal age was 18 but its dropped to 16...and with 10 yr old girls getting pregnant whos to say that as this becomes more and more widespread that eventually we wont accept that as legal age in the future western world...
One thing Islam can boast which you cant is that we have a fixed set of principles from a creator who knows best...whilst your ideology is based on the opinions of people...human beings who are prone to error...
I know which one is stronger...we have a basis...you have nothing but your own thinking upon which the basis is severely flawed...
And as for the gay people killing abusing their kids...one cannot generalise and say all gays abuse kids...the ratio of gay parents that are abusive is probably a lot less than straight parents...
But obviously the debate is about whether homosexuals can make good parents and obviously for a Muslim this is unacceptable cos the value systems are completely contradictory...
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Typical Indian, goes with flow with however it is like in America, be an idvidual and form your own opinions, American laws are fallible and not universal.
In the UK the age of consent is 16 not 18 and much lower in other countries around the world and I don’t think that is wrong because we’re ready for and need sex when we reach puberty, at least I did anyway. Of course the laws should be obeyed however ridiculous to save ones backside but in my opinion it wont be wrong if a person over 18 has sex with a 14 yr old if its legal in their country because people who have reached puberty are not children anymore they are young adults and if you were not a FOB you would know that nowadays people in this country are having sex at 12-13 anyway, not so much the boys but the girls definitely, just get on a school bus and eves drop on their conversations, of course it doesn’t interest me because I like a bigggggg butt and breasts on women and muscle on blokes but if somebody wants someone a bit younger in a country where it’s legal provided it’s not forced I don’t have a problem with them.
Re: Gay couple sexually abused boys they were fostering
I got the shivers when I heard Dr. Israr Ahmed lecture on the azaab that came on Hazrat Lut's people. A very sad time to be in today.
There's probably just as much or more sick heterosexual men who sexually abuse and harass adult women and prepubescent girls.
What those guys did is completely wrong and they deserve to be punished for sexual harassment but don't pretend it's the worse crime anyone has ever committed because heterosexual men have committed far worse by raping their own prepubescent/child daughters and then killing them but none of that gets mentioned and I know many dirty perverted South Asian FOB guys who would do anything to do dug-dug with 14 yr old white girls so don’t act like heterosexuals are angels. I condemn the gay couple but please give us a break “oh shock shock horror horror the moderate society has ruined his life for ever and ever and ever”, get a grip man.
And for Ha-Shem sake save the religious lecture, it sounds hollow and meaningless coming from the likes of you, I’m sick of your types, there’s plenty of other evils in the world, the scriptures condemn alcohol for example I know the Bible does, it says people who drink are foolish, how about we poison the lot of them too? That includes you. How about we do the same to all those heterosexual men who have sex outside marriage and watch porno? How about killing all the women who don’t cover their heads and dress modestly because the Bible and the Koran or whatever says so?
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yar lajawab..kiyon apna time waste kar rahay ho un logon par.....their maturity level is evident from their posts...iss liye janay do aur un kay posts par hastay raho....
Re: Gay couple sexually abused boys they were fostering
And as for the gay people killing abusing their kids...one cannot generalise and say all gays abuse kids...the ratio of gay parents that are abusive is probably a lot less than straight parents...
But obviously the debate is about whether homosexuals can make good parents and obviously for a Muslim this is unacceptable cos the value systems are completely contradictory...
so you are saying muslims are encouraging more parents to abuse children by preventing the nice gays to be some! shabash that's a strong moralilty !
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don't think we are imature if our ideas are different than yours!
chocolate desi: i'm not lesbian, i'm a woman not a sex toy, and that's why i have opinions, and they are not yours, accept it cause people like YOU are a minority on this planet, and will keep on being minority, as education spread women get more power and you can NOTHING against it, except killing us all:Dand destroy humanity, the goal of all religious extremist: what they call judgement day:D