Gandhi's non-violence and Delayed Independence

Some writers believed that had the Gandhi ji not called off No-cooperation movement after the violent Clash in the town of Chauri Chaura, Uttar Pradesh, in February 1922, this movement which had huge mass support could bring independence as early as early 1920s, because the a small country like Ireland then got Independence from England which was affected from First World War.

How do you see this theory?

Secondly in 1920s, there was no demand for separate state by Muslims and if India got Independence then, could the massacre that followed in 1947 be avoided?

Re: Gandhi's non-violence and Delayed Independence

The aim of movement was to arouse people and make them feel for the nation and its self dependence not to kill anyone:), Gandhi wasn't agreeing to have any direct action or revolution as he believed this would have thrown up unacceptable type of leaders, like Stalin or Khrushchev. India was still under control of Rajas and Landlords, who were by heart partner of the British, Gandhi hasn't launched an effective movement to bring Dalits and lower caste muslims and christian to the fold, their right would have been compromised.

Jinnah was responsible for Lucknow pact 1916, but later went back to england and returned with idea of Pakistan, he would have galvanized muslim masses and with the help of any foreign power might have pushed india into civil war, his direct action day anyway led to rioting in Bengal. League was pro landlord hence even in UP, league had votes of Ashrafs, non-ashrafs to this date don't vote for the party ashraf's vote in UP:), If syeds are going to one party, ansari will go in another:)

Re: Gandhi's non-violence and Delayed Independence

But Non-cooperation movement in its very nature was very much powerful and could make England bow down to their knees.

Regarding Raja's / Nawab, they always remained loyal to those who guaranteed them power. Even in 1947, they were taking decision for annexation with the country which promised them power. Had India got independence in 1920s, how would have these Rajas played is as interesting question as the question of a separate Muslim state in those circumstances :)

Re: Gandhi’s non-violence and Delayed Independence

Quit India did the same:), but by the time quit india started people of india became for more tolerant, they didn’t resort to violence, gandhi’s this idea of Satyagrah was later used my Martin Luther King Jr and Nelson Mandela in achieving their goal as well. Secondly under the guidance of Gandhi, second line leadership also emerged:k:, Gandhi made them from drawing room politicians to mass leaders:)

Rajas/Nawab in Indian side would have got annihilated any way, the process was started in Champaran where Gandhiji fought against Zamindars and Brits, sooner or later Pundas would have annihilated them:D, like they(peshwas) annihilated Mughals:D

Re: Gandhi's non-violence and Delayed Independence

That mean the delay provide a chance in deveopling the local leadership. But wasn't this delay also provided chance to Muslims to realise the fact that they can't live together with the Hindus?

Re: Gandhi's non-violence and Delayed Independence

We seprated is not bad, but the way we separated and further fought is even more worse:(, the violence would have thrown revolutionary people like stalin and Khrushchev and finally disintegration of India, like disintegration of multi ethnic soviets and multi ethnic Pakistan:)
League came to power in Bengal, Punjab and Sindh, Baccha Khan of KP wasn't satisfied and his later life remained in trouble, Unlike socialist, secular,democratic republic was accepted by every Indian, not all Muslims accepted two nation theory:)
Rise of muslims is very important in India,bollywood stars, most well known missile scientists, cricketers, presidents etc debunks two nation theory as a fact, which will further make Pakistan to change its ideology to make their youth believe in something even more ideal:) similar to liberal-fascists of Imran's brigade:), How good is secularism, ask the expat pakistanis who have prospered because of American attitude with their hard labour:)

Re: Gandhi's non-violence and Delayed Independence

It means that if by chance India had got independence in 1920s, the disintegration could not have been avoided.

I read that Mr Gandhi at many times (especially during some mishaps by Congress) denied control over Congress. Was his authority challenged by anyone?