Gandhi thought black people were subhuman

Gandhi thought black people were subhuman 12 Safar 1426

By Yasser Latif Hamdani

LAHORE: Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (1870-1948), the man who inspired great leaders like Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King, may have harboured racial sentiments against black people if an article on Sulekha.com is to be believed.

The article quotes a series of letters and petitions from Gandhi, linking the black people of Africa to savages and portraying them as little better than animals. Gandhi writes, “A general belief seems to prevail in the colony that the Indians are little better, if at all, than the savages or natives of Africa. Even the children are taught to believe in that manner, with the result that the Indian is being dragged down to the position of a raw Kaffir”.
According to the article, part of Gandhi’s attitude stemmed from his belief in the Aryan Invasion Theory, claiming that the superior white race from the Steppes subjugated darker races all across Eurasia. Gandhi refused to accept classification with ‘aboriginal’ looking ‘savages’: “A reference to Hunter’s ‘Indian Empire’, chapters 3 and 4, would show at a glance who are aborigines and who are not. The matter is put so plainly that there can be no mistake about the distinction between the two. It will be seen at once from the book that the Indians in South Africa belong to the Indo-Germanic stock or, more properly speaking, the Aryan stock.”

He believed that White rule in South Africa – with the help of a reduction in Asiatic immigration was necessary for civilising the blacks with these characteristics: “We, therefore, have no hesitation in agreeing with the view that in the long run assisted Asiatic immigration - into the Transvaal would be disastrous to the white settlement. People will gradually accommodate themselves to relying upon Asiatic labour, and any White immigration of the special class required in the Transvaal on a large scale will be practically impossible…

Gandhi thus remained a firm believer in white settlement and rule in South Africa. More explicitly, he wrote that the White race deserved to be the dominant race in South Africa: “What the British Indians pray for is very little. They ask for no political power. They admit the British race should be the dominant race in South Africa. All they ask for is freedom for those that are now settled and those that may be allowed to come in future to trade, to move about, and to hold landed property without any hindrance save the ordinary legal requirements.”

Along with the dominance of the white race in South Africa, Gandhi also held dear the idea of racial purity: “We believe as much in the purity of race as we think they do, only we believe that they would best serve these interests, which are as dear to us as to them, by advocating the purity of all races, and not one alone. We believe also that the white race of South Africa should be the predominating race.”

Commenting on a petition opposing interactions between the whites and the coloureds, Gandhi wrote: “The petition dwells upon ‘the co-mingling of the coloured and white races’. May we inform the members of the conference that, so far as the British Indians are concerned, such a thing is practically unknown? If there is one thing, which the Indian cherishes, more than any other, it is the purity of type. Why bring such a question into the controversy at all?”

Gandhi’s desire for the Indians to be segregated from the blacks was so strong that he went to Johannesburg in late August of 1904 to protest the placing of blacks in the Indian section of the city: “Why, of all places in Johannesburg, the Indian Location should be chosen for dumping down all the Kaffirs of the town passes my comprehension. …Of course, under my suggestion, The Town Council must withdraw the Kaffirs from the Location. About this mixing of Kaffirs with the Indians, I must confess I feel most strongly.”

It is unclear from the article whether Gandhi later changed his position. However, it does shed some light on the ideas that shaped the mind of one of the most successful political leaders of the 20th century.

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_23-3-2005_pg4_24

Gandhi, what an objectionable person he was according to this book, did he also inspire Hitler to carry out the Holocaust?

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Ghandhi and racism hmmm thats new angle but not surprised.

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this is kinda off the topic but i wanted to know who gave gandhi the mahatama title?

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Octopber, 1946, Noakhali, Muslims of the area implemented the ‘Direct Action’ threat call of Jinnah in practical. Thousands of Hindus were killed.
In retaliation, it was turn of Hindus to go ahead and they were ready.
The centre and local authorities had no forces, no program to control violence.

Gandhi reached Noakhali. Found a stop over at a local Muslim leader’ residence and declared fast unto death till violence is stopped.

MR Fraudia, I think Tagore gave him this title of ‘Mahatma’.

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In January 1948 Gandhi declared fast unto death. Two major demands were;

  1. Pay the treasury share of India to Pakistan; 55 crore.
  2. Remove the refugee Hindus from Mosques.

Both the demands were accepted.

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yes and pakistan never got that 55 crore money.

Anyway, my personal experience with indian hindus is that they are one of the most racist people( especially gujrati hindus). they all try to be all secular and have “love for all”. but that is all bullsh!t. They are a very racist people because of hindu caste system. In india upper caste brahmin hindus won’t even touch a dark acchut hindu (untouchable). If upper caste hindus can be racist towards achuts then ofcourse they would naturally be racist againsts black african people.

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pak brave heart is ,unfortunatly,absolutly right.

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Yes, the Indians are racist. While the Pakistanis who go on a killing spree because they cannot let a darker Bengali be a Prime Minister nor want darker Bihari Muslims in Pakistan have set great examples of tolerance. PBH, I guess you have never come to India which is the reason why you are making up fantastic stories. Also Mr. Hamdani knows what the whole world has not known or checked for so many years.

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I did'nt even know Gandhi had this attitude towards people of african origin i am very surprised now to find this information out, generally Gandhi is elevated to level of a saint by westerners and indians even making a hollywood film about him i am wondering why the western influenced media has not highlighted this part of Ghandhis character.

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Ghandji was probably a bit racist. He, like Jinnah, was a product of the British education system which works wonders on the inpressionable minds of 18 year olds! His belief in British political power in Africa is probably understandable within the political context of his times.

Whilst Ghandi was a staunch Congress king pin, and opposed the creation of Pakistan through to his sad demise, he was a man of outstanding moral character. I believe Jinnah was said to have remarked "He was the greatest Indian of our time"-do the British rep in public, and even greater praise in private.

As for the 55 crore, Wolpert seems to suggest Pakistan did receive the money, but none of the military hardware. Ghandi is one of the outstanding spiritual leaders of the 20th century, and that coupled with his non violent resistance theory which he gifted to all of us, raises his stake so that smal faults may be overlooked.

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Who is this Yasser Latif Hamdani? He is a quake writer. Gandhi’ works and writings are all compiled in different volumes.
Let me know in which volume this quake found Gandhi’ feelings against blacks!

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Can you prove your statement?

NO, Sir, Jinnah’ comments over Gandhi’ assassination were,
‘He was a great Hindu’,
Jinnah rejected his secretary’ suggestion to write the word, ‘great human’ in Gandhi’ honor

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This book says as much for Gandhi inspiring it as Jinnah inspired the holocaust!

Mod: :Dyou have deleted my response to this idiotic question by this moron, twice so far. If you have an iota of self respect and integrity, explain to me why.

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quack baba..quack..
forget yasser latif hamdani, these statements can be found from many other sources, forget Pakistanis as you may consider them biased, look at african sources.

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i posted the specific references from books and documents penned by gandhi in another thread fraudia, and the indian article that cited them.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showpost.php?p=3113132&postcount=38

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GANDHI & RACISM

Mr fraudia, I accept that you are right.
Quotes of Gandhi against blacks are correct. He called them ‘raw’ and ‘kaffir’, a term the British used for Africans.
While fighting for the rights of Indians, he was on the side of the British in South Africa.
I am interested to know why the Africans never protested against him. And many prominent Africans, including Martin L King, Nelson Mandela are among his admirers.

The word ‘kaffir’ he used against blacks is originated from Hebrew, is also quoted in Quran for sub humans, or in other abusive context for non-Muslims.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/HinduWoman40718.htm

Gandhi’s experiment with Islam and why it failed

Gandhi kept on changing his views in accordance to the experience instead of sticking to one thought, only he could not change was his softness towards Muslims.

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I really had no clue that Gandhi was a racist... Thats unfortunate....

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Mandela really must be a fool to think highly of Gandhi, if only he shared the wisdom and vision of Pakistanis would he know how wrong he is..

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hardly surprised, the guy always struck me as phony. but thnx for posting.

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so how exactly is this a World Affair/Current Event?

this should be merged with the previous thread on this topic in the Culture section, there is already plenty of discussion in that thread.