Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
Ok, so taking your “rational approach” any team that has played against Aussies for the past couple years and won are nothing buy fluke and exception can be given to the vb series win and kiwis win against Aussies B team:confused:
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
^ Exactly. I have no qualms in saying that even India's victory over West Indies to win the World Cup in 1983 was a HUGE FLUKE at the time.
This was confirmed when immediately after the World Cup, West Indies toured India and defeated India 5-0 in the ODI Series.
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
Great:smack:
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
the game was probably fixed
You seem to create a lot of stupid posts. Stop making such allegations without any substance. Only Sarfaraz Nawaz has that right.
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
Theek hai BD played better. But that does not mean it was not a fluke.
My definition of a fluke victory is one that is not likely to repeat itself in the next 10 matches. For example, if SA playes BD again tomorrow, I will bet my chaddis that SA will win.
Oh come on yaar, give them some credit. The probability of them beating two big sides based on fluke alone is really, really low. Their warm up win against the Kiwis and these two wins in the world cup are signs that by the 2011 World Cup, they will be a good competitive side (specially since home conditions will apply).
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
Fantastic effort, Bangladesh. They really do give it all their heart. Another upset or two awaits yet.
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
Oh come on yaar, give them some credit. The probability of them beating two big sides based on fluke alone is really, really low. Their warm up win against the Kiwis and these two wins in the world cup are signs that by the 2011 World Cup, they will be a good competitive side (specially since home conditions will apply).
quite possible. However, if whatmore leaves and they have retiring players, things might remain at the same level.
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
quite possible. However, if whatmore leaves and they have retiring players, things might remain at the same level.
An equally competent coach will do the job. It's all about believing that they can win now; they have shown numerously that they have the ability to do so. To get to Sri Lanka's level might take a few more World Cups (Sri Lanka took around 25 years I think to establish themselves as a top side), but they will get there for sure one day.
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
Just imazine...if this was a preliminary round match...South Africa may have been ousted from the World Cup before the Super 8. That is why I have been saying that a format where a team can be ousted based on one fluke upset is not good.
It was no "fluke upset". Give credit to Bangladesh who took their chance.
Anyway, South Africa beat SL and if they were in India's group they would still have gotten through with 2 matches won!
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
Ik denk de Bengalen hebben heel sterk gespeeld...waarin de Zuid Afrikanen hadden geen rekening gehouden...maar goed of jammer dan :D
Afrikaans and Nederlands is heel naby mekaar. Goed te weten dat ons kan praten sonder dat andere weten. :)
Hoevelen andere talen kan gei praten?
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
the game was probably fixed
:)
Yeh, fixed by the Bangladeshis! Someone must have paid a fortune to Ashraful.
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
Oh come on yaar, give them some credit. The probability of them beating two big sides based on fluke alone is really, really low. Their warm up win against the Kiwis and these two wins in the world cup are signs that by the 2011 World Cup, they will be a good competitive side (specially since home conditions will apply).
you also need to factor in the likelihood of complacence from the two big sides.
in any case, great win...it makes india's loss seem slightly less pathetic.
i now hope that bangladesh wins the world cup for maximum redemption value.
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
What BD needs, is to work on developing their pace attack. Their bowlers are GOOD no doubt, and they have delivered when it was required :k:
But they need to have a real pair of fast bowlers that can rattle the top batting order and shatter the tail enders…
Something like the 2 W’s …
If they can do that within the next 6/8 months.
They will be a very real, consistant threat to the current chowdhries of the game and climb up the ranking ladder very quickly.
Their batting seems to be okay - with enough depth…
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
So Now, India and Pakistan are confirmed Minnows.
Finally some relief, since we lost to a "formidable" side -- Which will be 2007 world-cup champion (bong fans).
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
*Good point. They need good pace bowlers. Even India and Sri Lanka is producing good pacers these days (well maybe not India, but you get my drift 
), so it’s not a matter of Asian tracks.
Old Man, you guys choked again, didn’t you :o ? Always go in as favorites, and always come out in this fashion. I have seen this for 15 years now, and it will happen yet again. Anyways, good luck to your team (even though I don’t think you guys will be making it to the semis now).*
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
haiii poor south africa 
I was really happy Bangladesh won though. It was kewl.
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
Old Man, you guys choked again, didn't you :o ? Always go in as favorites, and always come out in this fashion. I have seen this for 15 years now, and it will happen yet again. Anyways, good luck to your team (even though I don't think you guys will be making it to the semis now).*
Always is a very big word. It means whenever South Africa is the favorite (your definition) they ALWAYS lose (choke). Nonsense as you will have to attest to if you logically think abaout it. In this World Cup, as in MANY other games, they were OFTEN the favourites AND won.
According to you, stupid as it sounds to me, the Netherlands AND Scotland AND Ireland were actually the favorites to win against South Africa. Real really stupid choking argument.
In fact according to your logic the Aussies also choked agaisnt England and NZ lately, making them also chokers.
BTW: Not trying to be negative towards you but normally you post very good posts.
The semi's will be decided when RSA and ENG combat. That will mean RSA against AUS in the semi's (if RSA makes it). I actually think it will better than facing them in the final because yes, against AUS they DO have a mental problem. Happened AFTER that tied match in England.
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
Complacent Proteas slammed after Bangladesh upset
JOHANNESBURG, April 8, 2007 (AFP) - South Africa's crushing defeat against Bangladesh in the World Cup was greeted with derision back home Sunday, with former players slamming the team's complacency and one-dimensional pace attack. "Proteas humiliated" read the headline in the Sunday Times which said the hopes of glory for the team ranked number one in the world in one-day cricket had "suffered a severe setback" as a result of their "dismal performance".
"The defeat plunged South Africa from being among the favourites to reach the semi-finals to possibly needing to win all three of their remaining matches against the West Indies, England and New Zealand," the paper added.
Rank outsiders Bangladesh cruised to a 67-run victory over the South Africans in Guyana on Saturday, their first ever victory over the Proteas.
Former South African captain Kepler Wessels said Greame Smith's team had been guilty of underestimating a Bangladesh side which has already accounted for India in the first round of the tournament in the Caribbean.
"We probably turned up and thought it was a walk in the park, something we could take for granted," he said on the Supersport cable network.
Much of the damage was caused by a trio of left-arm Bangladeshi spinners, while South Africa went into the match without any recognised slow bowler.
Commentators have long warned South Africa's over reliance on pace could come back to haunt them in the tournament.
Former chairman of selectors Omar Henry said the selection of the team had not taken the pitch conditions into account.
"We left the spinner out but where are we? Sometimes we have to think on our feet," said Henry who was himself a left-arm spinner.
"We have gone in with a very one-dimensional approach," agreed Wessels.
"We do not have the bowling options. We were exposed, badly exposed."
While South Africa were one of the pre-tournament favourites, the defeat has again raised questions about the mental toughness of a team that earned itself a reputation for "choking" after early exits at previous tournaments.
Legendary batsman Barry Richards, commentating from the West Indies, said he had heard of stories of dressing-room unrest with players frustrated at being holed up in rainy Guyana for the last fortnight.
Star batsman Jacques Kallis has in particularly shown signs of tetchiness after coming in for criticism over his slow scoring rate in a previous match against Australia.
Seemingly stung by the criticism, Kallis played an uncharacteristically belligerent innings on Saturday but was caught for 32 when trying to hit Syed Rasel over the top.
As the top order was gradually skittled out, South Africa appeared to give up their run chase and seemed to be just trying to bat out their innings as Herschelle Gibbs made an unbeaten 56.
"They gave up. It was as if Gibbs was having a glorified net," said Henry. "It was a pain to watch."
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
any highlights of this game?
Re: Game 34 - Bangladesh vs South Africa, April 7th 2007
Here
**BD Inngs
**http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CA43ETV4