^^ 
I was only referring to your bogus claim:
As to your other pearls of wisdom:
Small provinces make for good representative democracy. Himachal, Haryana, Chandigarh and Punjab are quite happy where they are.
I’ll post comparisons on some objective criteria between the two Punjabs.
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........Small provinces make for good representative democracy. Himachal, Haryana, Chandigarh and Punjab ......
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Especially when it helps cut down political power of Punjabi-Sikhs. It even helps further by not giving Punjab a capital either. hahahah!
Your objective comparison is not going to work from the land of King Lallu. Spend some money (if you have any) and next time take advantage of a cricket series and visit West Punjab. Then go back and cry for your Bihar.
I’m sure you find it hard to understand the concept of smaller government and local power. Forgotten the lessons of 1971?
Sikhs haven’t been “cut down.” They are doing fine in India. Now you go to Balochistan or Rural Sindh before talking about Bihar, where I’m not from 
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..... Forgotten the lessons of 1971?.....
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So Punjab has to "share" its capital with haryana for better "management" of those Sikhs!. Why not let Bihar and Bengal have the same capital? Off course no one wants king Lallu in their home.
Sure 71 saw lawlessness in East Pakistan. Sure we messed it up. Now figure out why Runbeer Sena is rampant in your backyard? Why was your Indira davi killed by his own body guards. Off course surviving in the harem of King Lallue doesn't leave much to realize that "people who live in glass houses...."
As I said earlier, worry about the abject poverty of your Bihar. While we take care of ours. There is no hehe or haha about it.
This nation of Lallu Parsad from Bihar sleep on footpaths and shout curse words on Pakistan. Damn idiots.
^ Ditto!
The world climate has changed and also I can sense that Pakistan is on the roll and growing at a faster pace than ever before.
Its on the record that Pakistan Arm Forces already have 'Downsizing' on its agenda and the concept of 'Match the enemy $ to $' is obsolete and non viable. (Smaller but more effective and lethal defense will do fine)
After this the only way for Pakistan is UP. I cannot relate this statement with figures but would like to assure the posters that these are the indicators under scrutiny with world finance centers, and they give thumbs up to Pakistan's micro economic practices.
In terms of the geographical size of the 2 countries - There is no comparison.
India if grows past the strength of Russian, China and USA being a big country could see problems in sustainability and long term survival.
Big is expensive and 'Bulky', you can be on TOP once and then face the Big Slide,
Pakistan on the other hand could have fewer worries to coup with.
It can sustain its growth and advancement pattern purely due to its smaller size and workable check and balance governance, yet to achieve 100 % literacy rate, foolproof health & environment issues and elimination of poverty.
These factors can engage Pakistan for a great deal of time, and would be perfect distraction from arms pileup (unless for exports) and engaging the enemy unnecessarily.
On Political front India & Israel will lose its luster after the Palestine issue settles. India will become ONE BIG JUNK YARD of technology that is not required or requires periodical maintenance. Go Figure
Ps; Talwar bhai, that was 1971. Let it go !!! What lessons are you referring to? Has it ever occurred to you that war cannot change the cultures or the people? If there's another war than People in Pakistan will have less worries fighting Indian 'Bollywood jawans' without Mukti Banies. Panjabi,Pathan,Sindhi,Baloochis & Hurs know how to fight.
Arm Forces also require fewer and surgical strike capable power.
Indian surveillance capability will help them to peek through a 'Dihati Villager' taking a leak in the Chanay ka Khait and thats about it.
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^ Ditto!
Talwar bhai, that was 1971. Let it go !!! What lessons are you referring to?
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The lesson is that it is good to listen to the voice of the local people and not concentrate power with one ethnic group or province.
^^ No! I mean what lesson’s do Indian expect Pakistan should learn from 1971 ?
And your comments on the rest of my post?
Ps; If this is what you think is the lesson and then Why India holds on to Kashmir. Why not let the people decide.
Every one knows that there’s a Win-Win situation for both counteries in solving the Kashmire issue. Duh
& Tamil nadu & Nagaland & Khalistan & & &,
On the contrary Pakistan has no such issues,just the little rif-raf with our neighbour India,
^^ Many states in India have problems for decades, but we are not the ones who broke up, are we?
As to Tamil Nadu, it's some jobless jokers abroad who set up some web sites, the South is prospering like never before.
About Kashmir, didn't you hear Musharraf? The plebiscite is dead ;)
Antiobl, your name should be antiSense because you dont make any solid point. all you do is some crying.
man you know nothing about bihar or punjab or bengal even.
India doest have four states, it has 7times more than that. so the things are distributed, and they have t obe. so dont compare on the points that suits your intentions.
cry as much you can but truth remains the truth.
btw indian army has more sikhs than anybody else plus guess who is our pm?
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Antiobl, ....man you know nothing about bihar or punjab or bengal even.
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ha! and a kaka sitting thousands of miles away in USA knows about Bihar? Hmmm! Well that explains it. You are also from the land of King Lallu. hahah!
Having a Sikh PM doesn't wash off the blood of thousands of innocent Sikhs murdered in Delhi. Nor does it repair the bullet holes from the Golden temple. What is with a Sikh PM who cannot provide a capital to the state of Punjab. So instead of ranting about Bihar, concentrate on your homework.
Namaste.
bhayo and bheno, whats this obsession with Bihar you guys have. Infact, it has become the biggest joke ever mostly in the diplomatic enclaves of Pakistan and India. Everytime, Pakistanis raise the Kashmir issue, Indians response to that is 'take Bihar and leave Kashmir with us. ’ Oh well… I 'd suggest my guppy friends, stop wasting your time on such frivolties which somehow derails the discussion at hand.
Won’t this current deal derail the peace process between Pakistan and India. This certainly would affect the Confidence Building Measures undertaken by the tow governments.
hand.http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_11-11-2004_pg7_7
$230m Indo-Israel arms deal: Islamabad warns New Delhi against spurring arms race
ISLAMABAD: India has secured a $230 million arms deal with the state-owned Israeli Aircraft Industries to purchase military surveillance hardware for unmanned aircrafts and other intelligence-gathering equipment, a move criticised by Pakistan for jeopardising regional peace and security initiatives being pursued by both sides.
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.....Won't this current deal derail the peace process between Pakistan and India. This certainly would affect the Confidence Building Measures undertaken by the tow governments......
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Arms purchase will go on even after the resolution of key issues. Bharat and Pak are mini-super powers (or major regional powers). Both of them need to sustain a credible force.
As I said earlier, Pakistan can match Bharat albeit with the delay of 4 to 5 years. So no need to worry. In fact there are ways for Pakistan to even take a lead over Bharat if Pak intellectuals would start using their brains.
So the peace process will continue at its current snail pace.
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bhayo and bheno, whats this obsession with Bihar you guys have. Infact, it has become the biggest joke ....
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Bihar exemplifies everything that is bad in Bharat. Every indicator on social or economic scales falls through the bottom when it comes to Bihar. That is why prosperous elite from Karachi, Lahore, to Bombay and Bangalore would focus on Bihar no matter how hard you and I try to ignore it.
In fact smart people of Bombay and Bangalore are slowly realizing that they are better off without the north Hindian, Hindi speaking shackles.