Fruits of Swat deal: 2 soldiers killed

Kidnapping and killing are apparently clauses in the deal that the Taliban must follow.

When we send the dead bodies of these soldiers back to their families, what should we tell them about the deal made with their killers?

And this Sufi guy is a snake who cannot be trusted. Does anyone remember how many people he led to their deaths by urging people to go to defend Taliban in Afghanistan? Why did he not go himself?

Two soldiers killed in Swat

Wednesday, March 04, 2009
Sufi threatens to withdraw as arbitrator, militants briefly hold two officials

By Delawar Jan

PESHAWAR: In yet another serious blow to the shaky Swat peace deal, the militants on Tuesday kidnapped two high ranking officials of the Anti-Corruption Department and killed two soldiers in Ronial area of Matta Tehsil.

On the other hand, TNSM chief Sufi Muhammad has accused the security forces for the violation of the peace accord and threatened to withdraw as arbitrator. However, the NWFP government spokesman Mian Iftikhar Hussain asked Sufi Muhammad to take notice of the “elements bent upon sabotaging the peace agreement” as such action could impede implementation of the Nizam-e-Adl.

A statement of the Swat Media Centre (SMC) said a party of the security forces was fetching water in Ronial area of the Matta Tehsil, the hotbed of Taliban militants, when the militants ambushed them, injuring three personnel, including an officer. “The militants’ unprovoked firing on the water tanker of the security forces is a clear violation of the peace accord. The security forces are exercising full restraint and complying with the terms and spirit of the peace accord,” said the statement. Sources said that two of the injured succumbed to injuries in hospital.

In another incident, the militants reportedly kidnapped Director Anti-Corruption NWFP Yameen Khan and Assistant Director Bakht Zada Khan from Qamber area near Mingora but released them soon.

As there is no military operation at the moment, the militants have been roaming free along with their guns, the locals said. They said the militants had moved into the town without any fear due to the peace deal and had been carrying out brazen activities.

However, Yameen, while talking to The News, claimed that he was not kidnapped. Before this incident, the militants had kidnapped District Coordination Officer Swat Khushhal Khan and a senior officer of the Frontier Corps along with five guards. Both were released after intervention by the TNSM and local administration.
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Despite unabated activities of the militants, TNSM chief Maulana Sufi Muhammad, who has been negotiating peace in the valley, seems unhappy with the security forces for “breaching the agreement”.**

Addressing a press conference in Mingora, Sufi Muhammad threatened to withdraw as the arbitrator “if the forces did not stop the violations.” He said in both the areas — Sersenai and Ronial — the forces violated the deal by making movements without taking the four-member committee into confidence. He said the government did not heed to his earlier warning and arrested some militants.

A source close to Sufi Muhammad said that according to the peace agreement, the forces would move only when accompanied by the concerned committee. He also said that soldiers or high-ranking government officials could leave the valley but could not come without permission. Asked whether the militants did not commit a breach by kidnapping government officials, he said they were not kidnapped but made “guests” and were freed after some time. Meanwhile, unidentified assailants shot dead a person identified as Pardol Khan.

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These people are all psychotic and need to be on medications and locked in insane asylums. Its RIDICULOUS what is going on.

So, in other words, for one of the Pakistani security forces, who by the way happen to be muslim and perfectly Islamic too..., to even move about in the area, they need to call up every militant in town and let them know. "Uh, yeah just ringed you to let you know I'm going to go back into the bushes behind the house and take a crap". WTF?

Meanwhile a full kidnapping is defined as "Oh they were just our guests" by the "sufi"?

I'm sorry, I think I must have hit my head somewhere. Is this the year 2009 A.D., or 500 BC?

well! u must say FRUITS OF PAK-US GOVERNMENT DEAL AGAINST SO CALLED MUSLIM "TERRORISM" which is carried out totally by americans and NATO themselves in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan.

terrorist states themselves do not deserve to fight against so called terrorism which is totally being spread by themselves all over the world by thez champions of justice and peace.

well why dont they see their terrorism in the world against poor muslims of Pakistan, palestine, Kashmir, Afghanistan and Iraq . this is a crusade not war against "terrorism". etc

And why did you miss the content of the article? Why did Sufi and his talib buddies sign a peace deal and then continue to break that deal? Why are they such big liars and hypocrites? Why do they blow up schools, shops and kill innocent people in Pakistan? Why did they kill these soldiers among the hundreds more they have already killed? Is it not because they are enemies of Pakistan?

They certainly are Islamist terrorists, and that is due to their actions. Doesn't matter what NATO or US does or does not do. They will be judged on their actions inshallah.

And how long have you held the post of Kaptaan in Taliban forces?

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Looks like yet another short-lived peace deal sigh

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why do we even bother with these peace deals, all it does is gives these militants time to regroup, get a stronger foothold and then start acting up.

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The Pathans are known for their fierce resistant to outside influence. I think that Pakistan Army should honor them as a brave opponent. With limited resources , no air force, no tanks and superior weaponary ....their resistance against armed forces of a state is examplary.
They have certainly gained my respect. I am not a Pathan but still I have to call a spade a spade...and I really applaud the bravery of Pathan tribes.
Imagine what would have they done if they had a regular army like Pakistan army

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yeah hiding behind civilian population when their asses are getting kicked is very galant, noble and brave. so is hiding and planting bombs here and there.

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Well as I know the Tribal Paktoons kidnapped 200 Jawans of Pakistan Army but later as gesture of good will they released them. They aren't hiding yaar....they are everywhere and they have already kicked ass of army ....what else do we have to see to believe in their performance?
Its in the genes yaar..these people have a history of bravery and galant.

Imagine if they had air force or tanks.....with such limited resources they made army bow down in Swat and Waziristan.

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they released them as part of deals. they have hidden behind civilian populations and cried foul when attacked.

their bravery in war was seen when within hours of getting their asses whooped in afghanistan they were on the run. Anytime they have not been hiding behind women and children in civilian populations their butts have been kicked, and they know it. Bunch of sory ass scum.

if they stop hiding behind civilian populations, they know they will be destroyed.

and thanks for not talking about suicide bombings, because that is really so brave :rolleyes:

Share your feelings.

Had there been no casualties to our jawans and officers, this whole Taliban story would be perfect for a Bollywood love affair.

In a difficult bollywood style love scene either heroin or a hero is playing hard to get. thus one of them ends up chasing the other while wrapping around trees, dancing through bushes, and singing songs on the snow capped mountains. Then 3 hours (long long hours) later, the chaser finally get the chasee and the whole cinema hall claps.

The difference in this mountain scene is though the lack of will of Pakistani people to face the reality.

It is really a battle between tribal ways and civilized world. One wants to bomb girl schools, and the other wants to educated the future generations without discrimination based on sex or ethnicity or religion.

It is a battle between going forward, or reverting back to the life of tents and camels.

It is a battle between freedom to remain clean shaven forced to grow foot long beard.

It is a battle between having simple pleasures of life like listening to your favorite music vs. bombing the CD shops.

And sadly, so far the primitive tribals are winning all in the name of Islam.

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So who are the three top leaders of our new allied Govt who signed this deal?

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^ what is that you want?

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^ Simple, you and your party members are criticizing the deal, all I am asking is to name the topleaders who form the Govt and signed the deal. Lets hear some names shall we? I mean we cant just blame 'empty air' for signing deals with militants.

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Why do names matter when the principle is wrong? Names could be Musharraf or Zardari or somebody else in the future.

The principle most promoted by Imran Khan, Nawaz Sharif, Qazi Hussain and followed by Zardari and Musharraf is wrong.

If they were such fierce resistant fighters, then how come they were so quick to bend over towards Saudi Wahhabi petrodollars? loool

By that logic, the mightiest and fiercest warrior nation are Indians and Bengalis. 90,000 kidnapped jawans of Pakistan army. It's in their genes yaar.

imagine if they dont have local advantage, no mountains to hide, no population to blend in...

these talibs in my opinion are cowards, you dont butcher people, you dont disgrace dead..

bring them to plains of sindh or punjab and then you would know how much brave they are, i am not ridiculing pathans as a race as myself m a pathan by Blood.

kidnapping 200 jawans: war are not fought merely with bravery as with motivation and will to fight if other party has no will to fight they would not fight.

i have known few officers in mushy era resigning from army not because they were cowards because they perceived themselves mercenaries and why is that
because of perception.

also what would be going through a jawans mind when he thinks he is there just to be there to show amercia we are there, why die in vain.

my dear we dont live in zia era and it aint easier for them to fire on their own unless they have a strong reason and i belive now situation has changed...

have they ever been able to do a considerable damage on army since last year.

sufi mohammed: i dont know if many of you know it or not, this guy did do a rebellion in 90s and was crushed you know with what Police...

whatever we are going through is because of that Mushy , he allowed them to breed in swat for years, he allowed them to breed in Lal Masjid untill it became a bigger problem to hard to handle with police or local law enforcement.

in any situation first and foremost defence is local police, crush it before it gets out of hand.
unfortunately in both cases they werent....

although i am in favour of judicial system swat had before blending in but i dont see it happening...
these so called taliban are not there for ideological reason.

These is that point where We pakistanis ......... The Internet Philosphers should think about......... how some Millitants were able to Kidnape more than 200 Hundred Pak Army Jawans, Snatch their guns , vehicles , food stuff and every thing.

There was another Report about Afganistan..... Where the So-Called Taliban were able to Snatch Weopons supposed to be given to US Army in Kandahar.

There were Peace Deals in South Wazirastan (Three Times and Broken after some months) in North Wazirastan (Two times and broken after few months).
and Once in SWAT then broken after some months and now again in SWAT which again going to be broken.

Ya , the whole game is ............ To KEEP ALIVE THIS SO-CALLED TALIBAN MOVEMENT.

NOTE MY WORDS AND REMEMBER..............................

WHEN THERE WOULD BE NO RESISTANT IN PAKISTAN and AFGANISTAN , US and NATO FORCES will be having No REASON TO STAY IN AFGANISTAN?

It is back door planned Game , which unfortunatly OUR PREVIOUS and PRESENT REGIM in Pakistan is equally PLAYING WITH US.