Re: From Religion to Atheism (Split from Original: From Islam to Atheism)
Ok, only reason I asked you this, I get 2 messages from your posts.
One hand you beat down islam, with atheist argument. Then you turn around get mad at us
for calling other religion wrong.
Mathematically, you should admire us for being write about other religions.
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You should tell us we are also wrong.
Thanks
I dont think your religion is from God, and you dont have to agree with me. we can all choose to go with what makes most sense to us. I dont get mad when you call other religion wrong, I just find it hypocritical that muslims can say whatever they want about other peoples faith yet they cannot tolerate anything said about their faith. to me, there is no right or wrong religion, I simply dont believe that your religion or any other religion is actually sent by God as there is no evidence for that and nor does it make sense.
Re: From Religion to Atheism (Split from Original: From Islam to Atheism)
I dont think your religion is from God, and you dont have to agree with me. we can all choose to go with what makes most sense to us. I dont get mad when you call other religion wrong, I just find it hypocritical that muslims can say whatever they want about other peoples faith yet they cannot tolerate anything said about their faith. to me, there is no right or wrong religion, I simply dont believe that your religion or any other religion is actually sent by God as there is no evidence for that and nor does it make sense.
you are the one who claims your God sent the same message to every nation so you need to show the evidence for that.
Exactly ... You are right ... So without hearing the argument if one says that claim of Islam is a lie ... They can only say that if they themselves had witnessed the opposite being true ... Or else their own accusation backfires.
Now for me to support my argument to satisfy me ... is going to be different to what you will need to be satisfied ... If I read a statement in Hadith about this ... For me this enough proof. So I make that claim out of the proof that my scripture says so ... But since you are yet to accept my scripture I can't possibly use that evidence to convince you of the same ... However, what you can understand clearly is that I have not lied ... You simply do not accept my evidence ... The reverse however is not so clear as to how you arrived at the idea that the notion that all nations were sent prophets (AS) is false ...
In order to satisfy we will need to reach some agreement on criteria ... So what will be a good piece of evidence that suggests to you all nations were sent prophets of God ... .???
Exactly ... You are right ... So without hearing the argument if one says that claim of Islam is a lie ... They can only say that if they themselves had witnessed the opposite being true ... Or else their own accusation backfires.
Now for me to support my argument to satisfy me ... is going to be different to what you will need to be satisfied ... If I read a statement in Hadith about this ... For me this enough proof. So I make that claim out of the proof that my scripture says so ... But since you are yet to accept my scripture I can't possibly use that evidence to convince you of the same ... However, what you can understand clearly is that I have not lied ... You simply do not accept my evidence ... The reverse however is not so clear as to how you arrived at the idea that the notion that all nations were sent prophets (AS) is false ...
In order to satisfy we will need to reach some agreement on criteria ... So what will be a good piece of evidence that suggests to you all nations were sent prophets of God ... .???
you cannot give any evidence because there is none to back your claim. your faith is based on belief, not evidence. And yes, you're right hadith is absolutely not an evidence
anyone that doesn’t believe in your religion is condescending? religious people here show the least amount of respect and think its their god given right to talk down upon non-believers. please read other threads and see how your fellow brethren treat non-religious folks on this forum. yes very amusing indeed when one side can attack all they want, yet the other side is the one who gets warnings..
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I think you need to relax and not be excessively defensive. Youve been more condescending than any and disrespectful. If you cant see that then you are clearly blinded by your hypocrisy.
Ahtiests try and preach tolerance of beliefs but here you are being more intolerant of religion than most religions are of each other. Its amusing because youve opened this thread to do no more than knock religion. Yes it is funny to see the so called tolerant among us to showcase their hypocrisy.
you cannot give any evidence because there is none to back your claim. your faith is based on belief, not evidence. And yes, you're right hadith is absolutely not an evidence
Peace bella88
Look let's not be close minded about this ... If there was evidence ... What would you need to see to accept the possibility of the truth in the idea that every nation was sent a prophet from God? Is it fundamentally that you want to see monotheistic teaching? What criteria would you accept?
Re: From Religion to Atheism (Split from Original: From Islam to Atheism)
I think you need to relax and not be excessively defensive. Youve been more condescending than any and disrespectful. If you cant see that then you are clearly blinded by your hypocrisy.
Ahtiests try and preach tolerance of beliefs but here you are being more intolerant of religion than most religions are of each other. Its amusing because youve opened this thread to do no more than knock religion. Yes it is funny to see the so called tolerant among us to showcase their hypocrisy.
you're the one who needs to relax and not attack others. i have never been disrespectful to you or anyone else here, but you have been very disrespectful on the other hand but that was expected. And i didn't even start a new thread, the admins moved my post to a new thread as it was offtopic in another thread. you're the one being hypocritical here by knocking on non-religious people and calling them condescending and disrespectful while the people defending religion here are the most condescending and ill mannered.
Look let's not be close minded about this ... If there was evidence ... What would you need to see to accept the possibility of the truth in the idea that every nation was sent a prophet from God? Is it fundamentally that you want to see monotheistic teaching? What criteria would you accept?
Please tell me what your evidence is. quran and hadith?
Please tell me what your evidence is. quran and hadith?
I asked you what would you be happy to accept as evidence ... If you are not happy to accept anything as evidence ... then you need to retract your accusation of 'the lie' and admit that your own biases disallow you to entertain any validity in what we say rather than claim something to be a lie when you yourself are unable to demonstrate that ... As I said earlier ... Our evidence is Hadith and it is enough for us ... If that is not evidence for you ... Then what is?
Re: From Religion to Atheism (Split from Original: From Islam to Atheism)
you're the one who needs to relax and not attack others. i have never been disrespectful to you or anyone else here, but you have been very disrespectful on the other hand but that was expected. And i didn't even start a new thread, the admins moved my post to a new thread as it was offtopic in another thread. you're the one being hypocritical here by knocking on non-religious people and calling them condescending and disrespectful while the people defending religion here are the most condescending and ill mannered.