Was reading comments about Malik Ishaq (Lashkar e Jhangvi fame) in PA forums. Googled about him and found out that he assisted Arab princes in hunting birds near Rahim Yar Khan and then these princes supported / financed them for killing those who carry carnage of those who don’t follow their brand of religion.
Apart from political discussion, why do people in our region host groups who came here for hunting to affect our wild life? It seems Arab princes found out that now Taloor and Teetar in Rahim Yar Khan are being extinct, so they financed new hunting with collaboration of LeJ.
Is there a link between the pshyche of hunting birds and killing human beings. I read some where that in west birds don’t fly away when people approach them as against the case in our parts of world.
I am aware of hunting birds in rahim yar khan. sheikh of Abu dhabi owns a palace in rahim yar khan and i had the opportunity to visit the deserts and the hunting place which is all fenced.
I am aware of hunting birds in rahim yar khan. sheikh of Abu dhabi owns a palace in rahim yar khan and i had the opportunity to visit the deserts and the hunting place which is all fenced.
I have seen the area. Its near from RYK airport and people feel it a big occasion when sheikhs come for hunting.
Linkage of hunting with human killing is just for knowing human pshyche and stages of human mind before it opt for killing another human-being. Thats why referred birds behavior with the people in west.
I have seen the area. Its near from RYK airport and people feel it a big occasion when sheikhs come for hunting.
Linkage of hunting with human killing is just for knowing human pshyche and stages of human mind before it opt for killing another human-being. Thats why referred birds behavior with the people in west.
Now they have arranged a weekly flight from abu dhabi to RYK and whenever sheiks wives visit RYK for shopping the shopkeepers charge them a lot
In Pakistan the lives of humans are cheaper as compared to animals. Why are the arab sheikhs allowed to hunt our wildlife? Petro dollars?? In other countries they have designated areas where no one can even cut a tree. Killing animals for fun especially endangered ones is a criminal offence.
As far as funding the terrorist organizations like LEJ and TTP are concerned, Saudia/UAE are basically trying to export their brand of shariah to the whole muslim world not through preaching but by force. Since the Saudiization of Pakistan began in 1979 intolerance has increased many times. Where ever this brand has been exported we can only see destruction as the result.
But Its not a new phenomenon. The feudals always made happy their lords by providing them an opportunity to hunt birds and animals. It was common during British era and I read that even Bhutto made some of his king-makers happy by arranging hunting expeditions near GaRhi Khuda Bux.
Now now, lets not jump to hastey conclusions.
The shayookh from Abu dhabi have contributed a lot for general population wherever they went for legal hunting.rather they have more than paid their "debt" for hunting. Look at the hospitals built in various cities. As far as rahimyar khan is concerned, the only hospital shaikh zaid hospital speaks volumes about his generosity. The water purifying plants, the small canals spread deep into rohi, the solar panels, the long metal sh zaid road running from ryk to bahawalpur , are few of his examples of philanthropy, and mind you a common man is benefitting from it. Not to mention the jobs locals have found associating with the palaces. The intial runaway of ryk airport was also his controbution. Likewise, others from gulf and saudi have contibuted too.
I am skeptical about their role in killings on difference of sects . Why would they?when even the wahabi madhab is and has been florishing in subcontinent from within.
NO wonder why LEJ is gaining strength in all those areas where the Arab Shayoukh are spending generously. They have spent a lot on RahimyarKhan and the after affects we can see.
Agree with the philanthropy part and the work they did for the area, but again why someone get license to kill the birds and animals which are on the verge of extinction?
But I think whole Saraiki region remained under sufi influence since centuries and don't find that strict version of Islam (Wahaibism) can naturally flourish in the region.
Phir wahi, murgay ki Aik taang! Say whatever u please based upon media hype but we the people of soil know the reality. I mean, come on, spending money there is linked to LEJ .
shopping fan, apart from the media hype and all controversial theories in the market, how would one justify the support for rigid organisations like LeJ, Jaish e Muhammad which forms basis in the area which was recognised through Sufis like Bahao Din Zakariya, Waris Shah, etc
Yes, now you are thinking on the right lines. It was due to the extreme poverty, lack of education, saraiki khitay ko qomi dharay main shamil na karna, takht lahore ki ghulami and factors like that which attributed to this situation and not the other you were refering to initialy. and please, let just not start on how the leaders of wasaib are all wholy responsible for this.
Yes, now you are thinking on the right lines. It was due to the extreme poverty, lack of education, saraiki khitay ko qomi dharay main shamil na karna, takht lahore ki ghulami and factors like that which attributed to this situation and not the other you were refering to initialy. and please, let just not start on how the leaders of wasaib are all wholy responsible for this.
The discussion here is not political one, neither it is targeted to Wasaib leaders. I also gave example of British Raj and Bhutto. We are talking of the reasons behind cultural changes. I appreciate your concern for your area and hilighting the problems people face there
Thanks for understanding. My intention is not to turn it into a political discussion, at all. I was merely stating the reasons for what ur query was.
No problem :)
coming to the topic, how do you see the practice of animal fights (murghe laRana, etc), which is more common in rural Punjab and Sindh? I was watching a documentary on Sindhi channel, where a person involved in such activity was justifying that the practice is popular outside Pakistan in middle east and central Asian countries too.
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