Friends and you

How to deal with friends who have been with you for a long, long time, but if you reflect on their behavior with you in the recent past, you can surely see that they have been acting a little aloof and weird?

You talk to them(repeatedly) and try to find out if any problems came about because of something you did/said but you find nothing significant that could be held accountable. Eventually you start seeing that it is possibly due to one or more of your recent achievements in career/family life/studies that has made your friends going a little crazy.

Now, jealousy comes with some positives. It obviously can boost up your competitiveness and make you want to harder and move closer to your goals etc etc. Furthermore its a rat race we are all in and no one can be blamed for feeling a little down when seeing a friend making career jumps for instance while you are stuck somewhere in your life struggling day in and day out for your low paying job in a 2x2 ft cubicle with a squeaky chair sitting next to a rest room with a door that doesn’t close completely! You DO wish good for your progressing friends and want them to prosper, but the feeling of losing is never a good one and its natural to fall prey to such negative feelings. So the behavior itself is understandable and hence forgivable.

My question is, how to get rid of it?

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You don't. Because it is natural. Look everybody wants to be the best at what they do. As I consistently say to my guild mates in computer games (I am usually an officer or the leader) "You are not all special snowflakes." Everybody wishes to be in the lead. Ahead of others and moving towards a goal. Its great if your friends are the same level but if someone far out paces you then there is a small ting of regret.

Also don't consider it jealousy unless it truly is. Normally if you are happy to see the other person suceed you are not being jealous. What you have is some regret. Why am I not the one with that office or that job? What am I lacking? What did I do wrong?

Just remember be happy with what you have accomplished if you are satisfied why does it matter what other people do? Of course this applies if you actually like what you are doing and you are happy.

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But would not that end your friendship eventually? That's what should not happen. Not over career!

Yes it is natural and that's why friends should not be judged as being not true friends and I would never hold this jealousy against them. They don't wish bad for you but they might just feel a little bogged down and when they feel that way, they start acting weird towards you. Just like you said they might be regretting on what they could have done differently in the past.

But there should be a way to keep your friendship in line and not letting their jealousy come in the way. And trust me belittling your own achievements in front of them doesn't work either.

CM dude, it's been a while. Hope all's well

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jealousy is rarely as deep rooted as we like to think.
Normally jealous person believes/assume that you would TOO be jealous on his achievements.
SO
Support him/her and Cherish them. Many cases they would have same feeling for you.

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I think motivation and encouragement can help. But its also not good to spoon feed someone. I usually try to help them according to the best of my knowledge but after that you have to leave them alone. They need to learn how to fly.

I believe that you never loose good friends. It might be a disconnect for sometime, but whenever you go away you always come back and start from where you left it. If you are feeling that you will loose them forever, than they might not be your friends in the first place. Might be people who you just knew.

wow how come we never met before ?? That exactly what I believe!!!
is that syhne keeping you away from me?

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I think there is a difference between jealousy and envy......


**Jealousy ususally concocts feelings of negativity and thus would definitely drive a wedge between good friends however to envy one's friend's progress is not a bad thing . **


It implies admiration for their success at the same time saying you wish you could have achieved just as much and may even make you to strive harder to achieve similar success.


**With friends you just have to be lil careful so as not to let these things come in the way of a good and long friendship. For me it was like when I got my membership exam or a promotion and my friend did not , I just downplayed the thing and though i knew she was upset at not having gotten it , it was not really personal, however she did ask me not to tell her Mom about it and so her Mom still thinks I haven't gotten it ! **


However if that made her happy or at least in her mind in front of her mom we were both at the same standing , so what ? I still have a good and reliable friend in exchange for it !



So basically point being don't rub your success in your friend's noses !

Oh yeah blame Sheyn for everything :pcg:

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I thought it was safe since you always busy in vid.
I didn’t know we had a swing :sheyn1: in life one

She keeps me away from all the good things :smiley:

But now I am BACK. See ya around. :k:

Exactly :slight_smile:

i’m busy in All Views now :bummer:

that doesn’t mean tum pe nazar nahi rakhi mein ne :emmy:

U don’t need good things when you have the best aka Sheyn ! :snooty:

I think you're seriously fooling yourself into thinking the gap in friendship is because of jealousy. Friends are friends not family - they are not in a permanent, unconditional-love-ish sort of bond with you, as your life changes, you grow, so do your social settings and needs - and of course friends. This is normal. You and your friend might be moving towards two different places in life and thus you grow apart, it's okay. Let it be - no need to try and talk it out, if it's comfortable enough, it'll come back together on its own - otherwise, move on. Secondly, considering this is your friend who you care about and have had him around for some time, it's really odd that you'd describe his working conditions with negativity and sense of superiorty. Small cubicle, next to the restroom - that's just mean. :(

Wake Up Dead,

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ma simple solution....

dost hi na banaho .........

naa hon gay dost na hongay yeh pangay

Wake Up Dead,

You can't control your friends' thoughts or actions, you can only control yourself.

Sometimes sincere praise goes a long way. **Compliment **your friend on something he/she has that is is missing from your life. Perhaps this will make your friend reflect over the blessings in his/her life.

Encourage your friend if h/she complains to you. And IF your friend asks for help regarding career.....then help him out to the best of your ability. If he doesn't ask or complain, leave it alone.

If you sense that your friend doesn't want to talk about what is going on in his life.....then DON'T ASK. If you feel that your friend becomes uncomfortable or sensitive when you discuss your career........then DON'T discuss your career. There are PLENTY of things that can be discussed in a friendship besides career. Talk about **neutral things **that are fun. Maybe this will make your friend see that regardless of other advancements in life.......you still value the friendship as you did before.

After making these efforts, if you notice that your friend is STILL behaving in a juvenile way......then take a break from your friend. Jealousy can warp someone's thinking...and the only one to control it is the individual himself. Don't talk to your friend about his "jealousy" *or *"lack of happiness for you".....because he'll just accuse YOU of being ARROGANT. A better way to handle this would be to casually say to your friend, **"We're not talking our hanging out as much as before. Is everything okay? You seem a bit distant. If you're busy, I understand. But I value the friendship that we have and just checking to make sure you're okay." **There, you've done your part. If he responds, good. If not, focus on your life. You can't wait for people to grow up....they have to do it on their own.

A true friend would never be jealous.. if that person is behaving strangely because of positives in u're life, that person is anything but a friend. Real friends come "hassad-free"!

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wud my friend, eventually the jealous feeling will go away nd they'll get over the success nd just be happy for ya. then he/she will also progress nd u shall all be happy progressive ppl

That's a very correct assertion. I wonder how you got to it lol

You might not lose them but it's not good seeing them and not being able to connect at the same level you used to. It kinda sucks.

Yes as I said earlier I have downplayed things time and again. I have also encouraged, suggested and cherished for them. Both approaches did not work.

I don't get how you see me being condescending or acting superior. The example about a small cubicle was just an expression - or was it :D no one will ever know except me. Anyways I think you might have a point about being moving apart because of being at different places in our lives but then again having someone around for 20 plus years tells allot about the friendship standing the test of time or any other factor.

Now that wasn't anything remotely related to 'hope' :p

The only thing I haven't tried from all that you have said it leaving it alone. Its natural to feel bad seeing a friendship breaking apart. We tend to hold onto things some times. You have hit the spot by saying that jealousy warps all thoughts. Jealousy indeed affects all the actions you take thereafter. But then you contradict yourself by saying there are other things to talk about. It's useless changing the topic when the person in front of you has hang ups in his/her head.

No Gina. A true friend is still a human. Just like someone said, they are friends not family-there can be feelings of jealousy once in a while. It's nothing entirely in someone's control either so friends deserve some cushion in this.. just that it shouldn't let your friendship suffer

thats probably the world's shortest fairy tale with a happy ending. oh no wait all fairy tales have a happy ending any way :-p

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well u asked for a solution…

:snooty:

ek tu help karo… aur saat esi batain bi sunoo :mad:

Nope. Well not in my case. One of my very good friends is a know it all and a womanizer. Yet we are good friends. Why because I accept his faults and he accepts mine. We do not always agree, but when I nearly went blind from a fever, he skipped work and took me to the hospital. Stuff like that defines how good friends are.

If they start acting weird it is your job to act normal and not act weird either. If you show them that you are just as a good friend before and after why should they feel they have to change.

Sure people drift apart but the essence should be that both work at staying friends. You have to remember that friendship is a two way street. You have to accept each other is a human being and has faults and weaknesses. Additionally we have to accept that we have to over look these faults and look at the bigger picture.

Now we are speaking of one friend, the question you have to ask yourself is that in the over all picture is he a good friend?

Also belittling ones own achievements just sounds like fake modesty.

People easily say on a regular basis on these forums he is not your true friend and what not. But only you can make that judgement. He is your friend. Has he been a good friend? Does he do his best to help you, your family and has he helped you out when **** hit the fan for you? If the answer is yes, then you owe it to him to be his friend even when he is acting weird.